Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Sunday, Sep 21, 2003, at 12:39 Europe/Rome, Upayavira wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: IMO this is difficult to maintain. If someone wants to look on the code base of a block he has to search for its dependencies first or search for the code at

Re: [VOTE] Keep the docs list for wiki updates only

2003-09-23 Thread Andrew Savory
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: The question on which to vote is: Should we close the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list to humans (using the dev list instead), keeping it only for wiki update messages. +1 Andrew. -- Andrew SavoryEmail: [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Keep the docs list for wiki updates only

2003-09-23 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Just being slightly formal here to give everyone a chance to vote - I think we have consensus already. I have turned +1s to the proposal into votes below, please yell if you want to change your mind. The question on which to vote is: Should we close the [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Keep the docs list for wiki updates only

2003-09-23 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 06:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Just being slightly formal here to give everyone a chance to vote - I think we have consensus already. I have turned +1s to the proposal into votes below, please yell if you want to change your mind. The question on which

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23269] - ServletException in JSPReader.generate()

2003-09-23 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Blocks URIs

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003, at 07:38 Europe/Rome, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Lundi, 22 sep 2003, à 15:59 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 14:05 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: ... Taking the above example, does this mean : -

Re: Blocks URIs

2003-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 14:03 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...Yeah, well, too bad we already have something along 20 namespaces who already don't follow that convention. We could for blocks at least, couldn't we? using http://apache.org/cocoon/block/pdf/namespaces/foo/.1.0

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003, at 08:38 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I fear one-man-shows. May I guess where this fear comes from... Avalon? ;-) yeah I have the same fear. At the same time, we need 'sort-of incubation' practices for blocks, as it is impractical

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 16:23 Europe/Rome, Giacomo Pati wrote: A few days ago someone mentione something about individually releasable units. I personally think this might be the way to go, peep over to Avalon land and see how they manage it. By individually releasable units (IRU) I can see

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: ... Instead of associating 'maturity levels' to the actual location of a block, I would state that as a 'label' attached to it, a label that the block deployer reacts to and prompt the user for action in case the block is not considered final by the community. And maybe

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 14:26 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...And maybe also use a low-tech way of adding a WARNING_BETA_BLOCK.txt or WARNING_SCRATCHPAD_BLOCK.txt file in the block source dir to make it clear to CVS browsers and coders of the status of the code. Or rather an

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 14:33 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 14:26 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...And maybe also use a low-tech way of adding a WARNING_BETA_BLOCK.txt or WARNING_SCRATCHPAD_BLOCK.txt file in the

Flow and Web Services

2003-09-23 Thread sinner
Hi, let me start with a little personal introduction. I live in London and have been using cocoon and following the mailing lists for the past year and a half. Last year I had the pleasure of meeting some of you in person in Gent and also in London. Recently I have been thinking about connecting

Re: [VOTE] Keep the docs list for wiki updates only

2003-09-23 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Bertrand Delacretaz dijo: Should we close the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list to humans (using the dev list instead), keeping it only for wiki update messages. +1 - finally, my first valid vote is here! :-D Antonio Gallardo.

RE: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip Instead of associating 'maturity levels' to the actual location of a block, I would state that as a 'label' attached to it, a label that the block deployer reacts to and prompt the user for action in case the block is not considered final

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003, at 14:46 Europe/Rome, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 14:33 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 14:26 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...And maybe also use a low-tech way of

Re: Flow and Web Services

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003, at 14:53 Europe/Rome, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, let me start with a little personal introduction. I live in London and have been using cocoon and following the mailing lists for the past year and a half. Last year I had the pleasure of meeting some of you in

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003, at 16:05 Europe/Rome, Hunsberger, Peter wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip Instead of associating 'maturity levels' to the actual location of a block, I would state that as a 'label' attached to it, a label that the block deployer reacts to and

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Timothy Larson
--- Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I propose a much simpler scheme. A block can be: 1) certified 2) not certified A certified block is said to be guaranteed by the certifier (not only the Apache Cocoon project, but any organization willing to certify their blocks)

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 16:31 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...The system I outlined above seems really nice, but, IMO, has a few serious drawbacks: 1) it requires a central authorithy of certification 2) it creates an incredible amount of friction.. Right. Nightmares in the

AW: Help about how to use Repeater--bean binding

2003-09-23 Thread Jianyu Wang
hello, Hugo, Marc I have tried the repeater with new resource from cvs, also I mean using string and long, but I get always the same exception. And I want to know whether the problem is from repeater handler or? Thanks Jianyu -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Marc Portier

Re: Flow and Web Services

2003-09-23 Thread sinner
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:41:31 +0200, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn’t it be great if we could load a web service dynamically as an object in Flow Script simply by passing it the URI of its WSDL file? var fooWS = loadWebService('http://foo.bar/webservice?wsdl'); var value =

Re: Flow and Web Services

2003-09-23 Thread Ugo Cei
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really should not be that hard to implement this using Axis and existing cocoon components. Axis can use dynamic or generated proxies. Dynamic proxies have the advantage of not needing to be compiled however they do not handle complex types well. For this reason I think

Re: Flow and Web Services

2003-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Dear Sinner, (sorry can't resist - but I remember you well from last year's GT, Luke ;-) Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 17:47 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...Cool, it doesnt look like it will be that hard to code up so I'll get to work on it. I'm sure someone will find a use for it. As

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003, at 17:27 Europe/Rome, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 23 sep 2003, à 16:31 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...The system I outlined above seems really nice, but, IMO, has a few serious drawbacks: 1) it requires a central authorithy of certification

callback when a session expire?

2003-09-23 Thread Johann Romefort
Hi, I would like to call a flow method when the current session expire, is there any way to get a callBack, or maybe to regulary poll the session with getLastAccessedTime and do all the invalidating stuff manually? johann

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 16:23 Europe/Rome, Giacomo Pati wrote: SNIP/ I agree with you that even a 'naked cocoon' (a cocoon with no functional blocks) can be further modularized, even if I personally don't resonate with the modularization

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Berin Loritsch
Giacomo Pati wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 16:23 Europe/Rome, Giacomo Pati wrote: SNIP/ I agree with you that even a 'naked cocoon' (a cocoon with no functional blocks) can be further modularized, even if I personally don't resonate with

Re: on better release and version management

2003-09-23 Thread Berin Loritsch
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Certification, more than anything is a stamp on trust. When installing something, the question a user poses wants answered: can I trust this? can I build my software on this? Certification provides an answer to this simple (yet vital!) question, expecially in an

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation RequestGenerator.java

2003-09-23 Thread Joerg Heinicke
http://www.saxproject.org/?selected=namespaces In addition to those events [correctly used startElement() and endElement], SAX2 reports the scope of Namespace declarations using the startPrefixMapping and endPrefixMapping methods, so that applications can resolve prefixes in attribute values

Re: [VOTE] Keep the docs list for wiki updates only

2003-09-23 Thread David Crossley
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Just being slightly formal here to give everyone a chance to vote - I think we have consensus already. I have turned +1s to the proposal into votes below, please yell if you want to change your mind. The question on which to vote is: Should we close the [EMAIL

RE: [VOTE] Keep the docs list for wiki updates only

2003-09-23 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
+1 from David (and Jeff Ramsdale, not a committer but thanks) Keep it up Jeff, your opinion is valued. Anyone can vote, committer votes are binding. :-) Thanks! Nice way of putting it. I voted before it was put to vote, so I didn't know I'd be in the list... Anyway, I'm still a newbie--my

Website update.

2003-09-23 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: How often the cocoon website is updated? Is the site automatically updated? I ask because I saw there are 2 cvs. cocoon-2.1 and cocoon-site. Please explain. Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo.

Re: Website update.

2003-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 24 sep 2003, à 07:34 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : How often the cocoon website is updated? Is the site automatically updated? I ask because I saw there are 2 cvs. IIUC (but I've never done it) updates are manual, see