> From: Glen Ezkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Its a user list. Those who participate in it ask and answer questions.
>[..snip]
> If it were a developer list I could see this discussion.
excellent point
-ml-
Its a user list. Those who participate in it ask and answer questions.
Its success depends on the level of participation by french speaking
users. I wouldn't worry about translation of the list its a resource
for those who speak french not those who speak english, italian,
german, polish, japan
> -Original Message-
> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:35 AM
> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of a french-speaking users list-
>
> Le 13 janv. 05, à 15:28, Ralph Goers a écrit :
&g
Le 13 janv. 05, à 15:28, Ralph Goers a écrit :
...I've used the Google translator for non-English docs before and
while they are mostly readable I am sure they are nowhere as good as
speaking in the native language...
That's the problem, automatic translations are IMHO far from being good
enough
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:39:00AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Matthew Langham wrote:
> ...
> >However I also see a problem in having additional "channels" in _any_ other
> >language because it would essentially mean that people would probably only
> >post to their native list (which again i
Rajaneesh wrote:
How about having a single repository with english and use the google
translater
for translating from English to French?
I used the following link http://www.google.com/language_tools to learn few
words
in French :-)
Regards
Rajaneesh
This is what I was proposing as well, althoug
Matthew Langham wrote:
...
However I also see a problem in having additional "channels" in _any_ other
language because it would essentially mean that people would probably only
post to their native list (which again is understandable). But this would
eventually reduce the common discussion on the
>
> Please cast your votes.
>
Hmm...this is really a point for discussion. I certainly understand the
reluctance of non-English speaking people to write in English to the list
(we get similar Emails from our German speaking customers for example).
However I also see a problem in having additio
Leszek Gawron wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
Those pages will be a translation of the introductory pages of our
site, and pointers to the mailing list and its archives. I do not
plan
Le 13 janv. 05, à 10:11, Antonio Gallardo a écrit :
...We could add to the list:
es, it, sk, pl?
God! ... this could be a real babel tower! ;-)
Sure. Let's start with the french (as we have a convincing leader in
Sylvain, and some helpers), and see what benefits it brings, we can
then decide for
On Jue, 13 de Enero de 2005, 2:52, Leszek Gawron dijo:
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>> Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
>> Those pages will be a translation of the introductory pages of our site,
>> and pointers to the m
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
Those pages will be a translation of the introductory pages of our site,
and pointers to the mailing list and its archives. I do not plan to
provide a full tra
Le 12 janv. 05, à 23:50, Sylvain Wallez a écrit :
...And I (and Bertrand?) don't want to spend precious time syncing
translations...
I cannot volunteer for website translations to french ATM, sorry. If
you do some I'll certainly review them, but not more. I feel bad enough
about not being able t
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:21 AM
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of a french-speaking users list
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>
>> Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
Those pages will be a translation of the introductory pages of our
site, and pointers to the mailing list and its archives. I do not
pla
Nathaniel Alfred wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Ralph Goers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2005 17:30
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of a french-speaking users list
As far as the list goes, I'm generally OK with it but it mak
+0 for the French list. (i.e. i cannot help).
and i echo Geoff's concerns.
The list should have more than just two Euro-centric moderators.
Perhaps a French-speaking Canadian dev will offer to be another.
--David
Le 12 janv. 05, à 23:05, Juan Jose Pablos a écrit :
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Great, it will be good to have several people who can act as bridges
between the french and english list, to avoid fragmentation or
duplication of issues.
¿? When you say about duplication of issues, are you thinking
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Great, it will be good to have several people who can act as bridges
between the french and english list, to avoid fragmentation or
duplication of issues.
¿? When you say about duplication of issues, are you thinking on
bugzilla? The issues should be written in englis
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
Those pages will be a translation of the introductory pages of our site,
and pointers to the mailing list and its archives. I do not plan to
provide a full tra
I'm just a user and I know that I cannot vote. But from my point of view
english is the one and only IT worlds language, lets say the Lingua
Franca. You shouldn't seperate neither users nor developers experiences
in different mailing lists.
Markus
Torsten Curdt schrieb:
Please cast your votes.
Please cast your votes.
Due to the possibility of a fraction
of the user base I give only a +0
I am wondering how they survive in the
IT world. Anyway... if it helps...
cheers
--
Torsten
sage-
> >From: Ralph Goers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2005 17:30
> >To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of a french-speaking users list
>
> >As far as the list goes, I'm generally OK with it but it makes m
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Bertrand already offered to moderate this list, and I of course also
volunteer for this.
Please cast your votes.
Here's my +1.
+1
Tony
>-Original Message-
>From: Ralph Goers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2005 17:30
>To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of a french-speaking users list
>As far as the list goes, I'm generally OK with it but it makes me
wo
> From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[..snip..]
>
> Therefore, a very large part of Cocoon users in France have no link with
> the community and "just use" Cocoon. And because of that, they don't use
> it very well, as their only source of information is - ahem - the docs.
Ouch. We
Sylvain Wallez said:
>
> Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
> Those pages will be a translation of the introductory pages of our site,
> and pointers to the mailing list and its archives. I do not plan to
> provide a f
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Folks,
We discussed this a bit on the PMC list, and we now need some formal
decision in the open about this.
Over time, I found many people in France using Cocoon but not subscribed
to the ASF mailing lists. I asked myself the reason for this and
discussed with some of the
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
...
Therefore, I would like to create a new mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few pages in french on the website.
+0 (good idea, but I don't speak French, so I can't help much there ;-)
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- verba volant,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please cast your votes.
Here's my +1.
Sylvain
I'm not a Cocoon Committer, but I'm a "French Canadian", so here's my
+1.
Even if non binding, your opinion matters, as it shows the interest for
the creation of this list.
I've been using Cocoon since the days of vers
Here's my +1 for the creation of the list.
Le 12 janv. 05, à 16:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
...I've been using Cocoon since the days of version 2.0.4, so I can
certainly help to answer some questions on the new list
Great, it will be good to have several people who can act as bridges
betwe
> Please cast your votes.
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Sylvain
>
I'm not a Cocoon Committer, but I'm a "French Canadian", so here's my
+1.
I've been using Cocoon since the days of version 2.0.4, so I can
certainly help to answer some questions on the new list.
Thanks.
Eric
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Folks,
We discussed this a bit on the PMC list, and we now need some formal
decision in the open about this.
Over time, I found many people in France using Cocoon but not subscribed
to the ASF mailing lists. I asked myself the reason for this and
discussed with some of the
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