Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Tony Collen
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. My late +1 for "Cocoon Forms" We can pro

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. Just curious, when are you planning to do so? I should be st

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. But as far as the continuation and flowscript support for this g

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Steven Noels
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 09:15 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Bearing in mind the amount of work that requires a _real_ renaming, like changing package names, namespaces and all that - who's going to do that? I would suggest we do that in Cocoon 2.2 For the user

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 09:15 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Bearing in mind the amount of work that requires a _real_ renaming, like changing package names, namespaces and all that - who's going to do that? I would suggest we do that in Cocoon 2.2 For the users, a "planned incompatibilit

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Steven Noels
Christopher Oliver wrote: But as far as the continuation and flowscript support for this goes, I think "refactoring" is the proper term. IMO the hack to support ${continuation.id} and the whole JS (woody.js, woody2.js) interface needs to be redesigned. +1, and a big thank you for this cool-head

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Steven Noels
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I propose that we put in the docs some notes about the history of Woody/Cocoon Forms: who started it (you deserve credit), the initial name and where it came from, etc, etc, including the australian meaning of woody ;-) +1 (apart from the australi

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Christopher Oliver
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. But as far as the continuation and flowscript support for this goes, I think "refactoring" i

RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > > I propose that we put in the docs some notes about the history of > Woody/Cocoon Forms: who started it (you deserve credit), the initial > name and where it came from, etc, etc, including the australian meaning > of woody ;-) > +1 (apart from the australian meaning

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 - le

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-10 Thread Steven Noels
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Which is a nice example, here, btw: the OT team proposed an alternative flow control concept and an alternative form framework, the community considered the first inferior to what we already had, but considered superior the second and promoted it as "official". Adapting

Re: [HUM] block names (Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?)

2003-10-09 Thread Michael Melhem
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:55:58PM +0200, Marc Portier wrote: > > > Michael Melhem wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > >>Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> > > > > >>>We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the > >>>great

[HUM] block names (Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?)

2003-10-09 Thread Marc Portier
Michael Melhem wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) I had a "Woody" yesterday; wel

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Marc Portier
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Someone mentioned that "Forms" in the name is "to official" and Stefano answered "if we won't have forms in the name we don't need to r

ReSTy continuations (was Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?)

2003-10-09 Thread Marc Portier
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [at the hackaton, there was a discussion on why the REST-based approach that Marc proposed cannot be matched one-2-one with the flow approach. Marc agreed that his idea of continuation and the current continuation are different concepts and forcing them into the same

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Michael Hartle
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) ROFTL ;-D For those who hadn't special aussie lessons with Michael, check out the "vulgar slang" meaning at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=woody Sylvain It reminds me of one the

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Torsten Curdt wrote: This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 +1 also. that's exactly wh

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Torsten Curdt wrote: I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) ROFTL ;-D For those who hadn't special aussie lessons with Michael, check out the

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 that's exactly what I was preaching in my presentatio

RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > > No matter what the result was, I think forcing people with one solution > forced discussions to happen, which helped all the parties involved, > even to understand thing that were not previously understood by both > sides. > > This is why having one official dir

RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Matthew Langham wrote: > > >>> I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. > >> > >>Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) > >>cheers, > >>Michael > > > > ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means > > in Australia ;) > > > > Hahaha - that's really funny :-). > Ok, be

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 14:50 Europe/Rome, Michael Melhem wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? I think we had consensus, h

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) hum. I'm starting to agree with you guys on the renaming ;-) -Bertrand P.S. http://psy.otago.ac.nz/r_oshea/slang.html

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Matthew Langham
I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) Hahaha - that's really funny :-). Matthew

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) cheers -- Torsten

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 14:07 Europe/Rome, Geoff Howard wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Michael Melhem
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > > I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or > > am I mistaken about the agreement? > I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended the hackathon, > so i

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Someone mentioned that "Forms" in the name is "to official" and Stefano answered "if we won't have forms in the name we don't need to rename it at all". Such a ni

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Geoff Howard
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 We can probably keep Woody as the blo

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Per-Olof Noren
Here is 2 cents worth of opinions from sweden :-) On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 13:03, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows > that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 > We can probably keep Woody as the block name though -1 F

RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Carsten Ziegeler > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > > I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we > need a vote, > > or am I mistaken about the agreement? > I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended > the hackathon, so it might be that someone is -1 on it

Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? I guess there were a couple of +1 ;) Here is mine again: +1 Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm o

RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or > am I mistaken about the agreement? I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended the hackathon, so it might be that someone is -1 on it and has a good reason. > > Naming it "Coc

Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?

2003-10-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to t