On 01/16/2015 01:30 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:41:11 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 1/15/15 2:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
Raising this issue once again.
Are we going to upgrade the requirement for the next major release?
[ ] Java 5
Le 15/01/2015 17:15, Gilles a écrit :
I wonder: Isn't the end of public updates[1] (scheduled on April of
this year for Java 7) somehow going to change that picture a lot?
If not, why?
That will not change much the current situation. Java 8 is already the
default JRE proposed on
On 16/01/2015 07:53, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi Gilles,
2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org:
Hi.
In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the
traffic volume is a stumbling block.
[For some time now, it has been a growing nuisance, and the
usual
If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the
project that's indeed an issue. We had an average of 400 messages per
month in 2014, that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7
of lucene-dev.
I don't think splitting the list by component is a good idea though,
On 16 January 2015 at 10:49, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote:
If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the
project that's indeed an issue. We had an average of 400 messages per
month in 2014, that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7
of
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:49:14 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining
the
project that's indeed an issue. We had an average of 400 messages per
month in 2014, that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and
1/7
of lucene-dev.
I
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 08:53:56 +0100, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi Gilles,
2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org:
Hi.
In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the
traffic volume is a stumbling block.
[For some time now, it has been a growing nuisance, and
Le 16/01/2015 12:03, sebb a écrit :
Commits already have a separate list.
Ah thanks, I thought they were merged. Maybe we could move the Wiki
notifications to the commits or notification lists, as well as the
jenkins/continuum/gump messages.
Emmanuel Bourg
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:40:18 +, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 16/01/2015 07:53, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi Gilles,
2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org:
Hi.
In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the
traffic volume is a stumbling block.
[For some time
On 16 January 2015 at 11:16, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote:
Le 16/01/2015 12:03, sebb a écrit :
Commits already have a separate list.
Ah thanks, I thought they were merged. Maybe we could move the Wiki
notifications to the commits or notification lists, as well as the
On 16 January 2015 at 11:13, Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 08:53:56 +0100, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi Gilles,
2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org:
Hi.
In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the
traffic volume is a
On 16 January 2015 at 11:21, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 January 2015 at 11:16, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote:
Le 16/01/2015 12:03, sebb a écrit :
Commits already have a separate list.
Ah thanks, I thought they were merged. Maybe we could move the Wiki
notifications to the
Hi
I like reading all components' messages, but I think it is a good point to
offer an alternative to others who wouldn't feel it was productive to receive
messages from all components.
What about keeping the commons-dev mailing list as is, and we ask infra to help
us, by creating mailing
I'd say the problem is probably that you have too little mailing list
traffic incoming. Subscribe to a few more and you /will/ have to start
making inbox rules :)
Kristian (Who had the dubious honor of receiving more email than the
rest of my company altogether last year - 20 people)
Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the
project that's indeed an issue. We had an average of 400 messages per
month in 2014, that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7
of lucene-dev.
I don't think splitting the list by
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:13:07 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
Le 15/01/2015 17:15, Gilles a écrit :
I wonder: Isn't the end of public updates[1] (scheduled on April
of
this year for Java 7) somehow going to change that picture a lot?
If not, why?
That will not change much the current situation.
On 16/01/2015 11:18, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:40:18 +, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 16/01/2015 07:53, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi Gilles,
2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org:
Hi.
In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the
traffic volume
So, for places where you want to make use of streams, make your API
take a StreamT rather than a CollectionT or whatever, and require
the user to choose whether to call parallelStream() or stream().
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/15/15 2:24 PM,
Hi Benedikt,
Now that JDK 9 Early Access build images are modular [1], there is a fresh
Early Access build for JDK 9 b45 https://jdk9.java.net/download/
available on java.net.
The summary of changes are listed here
http://www.java.net/download/jdk9/changes/jdk9-b45.html
In addition, there
On 1/15/15 4:41 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:09:29 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 1/15/15 9:50 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02:32 +0100, Adriean Khisbe wrote:
Hi,
Working on a project I had to capture current state of a
DescriptiveStatistics, and choosed to use a
Le 16/01/2015 13:20, Gilles a écrit :
I'm interested to know more about this.
Where can I find information? Do you have links?
Sure, Andrew Haley from Red Hat announced [1] two years ago that OpenJDK
6 would still be supported, and we can expect the same support for
OpenJDK 7 in the future.
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:36:27 +, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 16/01/2015 11:18, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:40:18 +, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 16/01/2015 07:53, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi Gilles,
2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org:
Hi.
In the discussion that
Maybe nobody is interested to upgrade the Java version if they are not
forced to. If nobody force them, then CM will have to support Java 6 even
for 5.0 release. The sooner we drop support for older version, the better.
I'd say that current and current - 1 versions(i.e. 7 and 8) are more than
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:09:02 +0100, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/16/2015 01:30 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:41:11 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 1/15/15 2:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
Raising this issue once again.
Are we going to upgrade
Concerning [Math], when the possibility was raised, the majority
thought that development within Commons had practical advantages
(through shared burden of the development environment).
I'm stating again the fact that nobody is involved in a Commons
project programming-wise; hence it does
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:16:16 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
Le 16/01/2015 13:20, Gilles a écrit :
I'm interested to know more about this.
Where can I find information? Do you have links?
Sure, Andrew Haley from Red Hat announced [1] two years ago that
OpenJDK
6 would still be supported, and
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:54:40 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote:
Concerning [Math], when the possibility was raised, the majority
thought that development within Commons had practical advantages
(through shared burden of the development environment).
I'm stating again the fact that nobody is involved
On 16 January 2015 at 14:54, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote:
Concerning [Math], when the possibility was raised, the majority
thought that development within Commons had practical advantages
(through shared burden of the development environment).
I'm stating again the fact that nobody
While I am part of the [RDF] community - I would be careful about
sub-lists with too few people (e.g. 3).
As you said, voting on releases (and other PMC-level votes) should be
kept on the all-dev - formally then the sublist should not be a worry
- you wouldn't make a mailing list for two people
Was it mentioned that anybody would be forbidden to subscribe to any
ML they see fit?
You missed my point - but never mind.
That comparison is pretty flawed as those projects are not tiny
components.
I'm not talking about the size of components, but the size of the
ML traffic.
So just
I would be in favour of total segregation, even including issues and
commits, but I appreciate the latter two might be challenging to
implement.
Then let's ask the next question: Why be a Commons project?
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To unsubscribe,
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:52:36 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote:
Was it mentioned that anybody would be forbidden to subscribe to any
ML they see fit?
You missed my point - but never mind.
What was it?
Judging from your comments below, you completely missed mine.
That comparison is pretty
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:56:30 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote:
I would be in favour of total segregation, even including issues and
commits, but I appreciate the latter two might be challenging to
implement.
Then let's ask the next question: Why be a Commons project?
I gave one answer a few posts
I find the whole I idea of a mailing list very 1990s. I'd much prefer
something like Google Groups where I can set my notification preferences
easily to send me updates only on certain threads such as threads I've
started, which has a nice easily browsable and searchable web interface,
and where I
Then let's ask the next question: Why be a Commons project?
I gave one answer a few posts ago (several times).
Guess I missed that in all that traffic :-p
Sorry - I am done with this thread.
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Le 16/01/2015 16:08, Gilles a écrit :
Any more recent updates on the hopes mentioned there?
None that I'm aware of. I expect one when the end of public updates is
reached for Java 7.
Did you notice how the global picture seems to change when jdk replaces
jre in the request?
I guess
Le 16/01/2015 17:25, Torsten Curdt a écrit :
Sorry - I am done with this thread.
err... wait ! We haven't talked about logging and line length yet ;)
Emmanuel
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On 1/16/15 5:05 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the
project that's indeed an issue. We had an average of 400 messages per
month in 2014, that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7
of lucene-dev.
My project is to make android app include ftp client function, so I use
Apache Commons net library.
English encoding is not problem. but when I use korean, encoding is broken.
I think FTP.java source code, 417 line, should have to update.
setControlEncoding(String encoding) function changes
On 16 January 2015 at 14:12, 이왕석 seok0...@gmail.com wrote:
My project is to make android app include ftp client function, so I use
Apache Commons net library.
English encoding is not problem. but when I use korean, encoding is broken.
I think FTP.java source code, 417 line, should have to
On 01/16/2015 03:09 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/16/2015 01:30 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:41:11 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 1/15/15 2:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
Raising this issue once again.
Are we going to upgrade the
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:58:12 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 1/16/15 5:05 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining
the
project that's indeed an issue.
Two or three people said so.
We had an average of 400 messages per
I'm not sure what infra will say about managing multiple dev lists for one
project, but we can ask.
I would suggest that if a project wants its own dev list, a VOTE be called.
Commons is still _one_ project, so all Commons PMC committers votes should
count, not just folks involved in that single
Or, they could move to TLP.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure what infra will say about managing multiple dev lists for one
project, but we can ask.
I would suggest that if a project wants its own dev list, a VOTE be called.
Commons is
Am 16.01.2015 um 16:19 schrieb Duncan Jones:
On 16 January 2015 at 14:54, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote:
Concerning [Math], when the possibility was raised, the majority
thought that development within Commons had practical advantages
(through shared burden of the development
Le 16/01/2015 21:17, Gilles a écrit :
Between 2014-10-21 and now, the count of messages addressed to one of the
commons lists is 4387, that is an average of about 50 per day (1500 per
month).
How did you get that number? I got 400 by averaging the messages per
month displayed on the mail
I agree - we're hung up on a clown from the 90s. It's so much simpler click
watch on github and get notifications. Also stackoverflow has a much broader
Java community and having traffic go through it could benefit this community.
Ole
On 01/16/2015 10:21 AM, Ben McCann wrote:
I find the
On 01/16/2015 09:08 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:16:16 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
Le 16/01/2015 13:20, Gilles a écrit :
I'm interested to know more about this.
Where can I find information? Do you have links?
Sure, Andrew Haley from Red Hat announced [1] two years ago that
I vote Java 7. We haven't been able to upgrade all our infrastructure to
Java 8 yet because of a few issues. One of which could be fixed by someone
from Commons Dev cutting a new release of BCEL. The last one got voted
down, but I have a patch for the issues that blocked the release here:
Le 16/01/2015 23:24, Ben McCann a écrit :
I vote Java 7. We haven't been able to upgrade all our infrastructure to
Java 8 yet because of a few issues. One of which could be fixed by someone
from Commons Dev cutting a new release of BCEL. The last one got voted
down, but I have a patch for the
On 1/16/15 2:09 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/16/2015 01:30 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:41:11 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 1/15/15 2:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
Raising this issue once again.
Are we going to upgrade the
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