Re: [all] Rethinking dev@

2016-06-24 Thread Benson Margulies
The 'problem of Jakarta' was a problem of supervision. The board could not trust that anyone was minding the entire store. Multiple mailing lists could be seen as an indication that commons is large and diverse enough to risk suffering from the same problem. Some would think that this desire to giv

Re: [ALL] Volunteers for a Math IPMC?

2016-06-22 Thread Benson Margulies
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > This thread seems to have died. I am confused why no proposal has been > created. 7 people is certainly enough to propose something. Or is the desire > simply to remain a subproject of Commons? I diagnose some authority confusion here. I fea

Re: [VOTE] Move Commons Math to TLP (again)...

2016-06-17 Thread Benson Margulies
I don't see the need for a consensus. If some people want to write an incubator proposal, they can write it. If they can sell it to the incubator, they have a podling. Meanwhile, the code remains Apache Licensed, and anyone who wants to commit things to it back here can do that. Eventually, there w

Re: [VOTE] Move Commons Math to TLP (again)...

2016-06-12 Thread Benson Margulies
Procedurally speaking, I see no reason for this community to hold any vote at all. If a small group of people, including a foundation member or two, wants to ask the board to establish a TLP, they may, by writing a coherent proposal to the board explaining the situation. The board might ask for a

Re: [ALL] About binary compatibility

2016-06-02 Thread Benson Margulies
> > >> Ralph >> >> > On Jun 2, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >> > >> > Dependency management cures this; if you don't want to pick up newer >> > versions, you can prevent it. Since dep management doesn't know abo

Re: [ALL] About binary compatibility

2016-06-02 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:04 PM, James Carman wrote: > You've been in karaf land for too long! ;) I took my team into OSGi to get away from these messes. Of course, we got some other messes in their places. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:36 PM Benson Margulies > wrote: > &

Re: [ALL] About binary compatibility

2016-06-02 Thread Benson Margulies
hich poison you prefer. If people here prefer bumping artifactids and package names, so be it. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hello Benson, > > Benson Margulies schrieb am Do., 2. Juni 2016 um > 23:36 Uhr: > >> I don't understand what's wro

Re: [ALL] About binary compatibility

2016-06-02 Thread Benson Margulies
I don't understand what's wrong with semantic versioning and keeping the same maven coordinates. No sane person should be using RELEASE or LATEST. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional command

Re: [VFS] NIO Version Questions

2016-06-01 Thread Benson Margulies
usage patterns to > develop in the community. OK, seems simple enough, one JIRA per provider. > > > > On 02/06/2016 00:28, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> Which direction do you have in mind here? I'd be up for helping to >> build a device that makes commons-vfs

Re: [VFS] NIO Version Questions

2016-06-01 Thread Benson Margulies
Which direction do you have in mind here? I'd be up for helping to build a device that makes commons-vfs act as an NIO2 file system provider, but you might be aiming in the opposite direction. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: > On 2 June 2016 at 01:48, Mark Fortner wrote: >>

Re: svn commit: r1742534 - /commons/proper/io/tags/2.5/

2016-05-09 Thread Benson Margulies
6 um 14:47 Uhr: >> >>> On 8 May 2016 at 13:43, sebb wrote: >>> > On 8 May 2016 at 13:16, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >>> >> Benson Margulies schrieb am So., 8. Mai 2016 um >>> >> 14:06 Uhr: >>> >> >>> >>> I just ma

Re: svn commit: r1742539 - /commons/proper/io/trunk/pom.xml

2016-05-09 Thread Benson Margulies
o put the content into place, FWIW. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:28 AM, sebb wrote: > On 9 May 2016 at 10:56, sebb wrote: >> On 9 May 2016 at 08:15, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Benson Margulies schrieb am So., 8. Mai 2016 um >>> 15:11 Uhr:

Re: svn commit: r1742539 - /commons/proper/io/trunk/pom.xml

2016-05-08 Thread Benson Margulies
As far as I could see, mvn site-deploy is running the maven-scm-publish-plugin, that is using that URL from distribution-management. maybe someone configured it wrong. I'm happy to pass the whole issue off to you. On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi Benson, &g

Re: svn commit: r1742534 - /commons/proper/io/tags/2.5/

2016-05-08 Thread Benson Margulies
I just made 2.5 look like 2.4. How is that a change that requires discussion? Shouldn't it have been noticed and discussed when it was done for 2.4? On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 7:17 AM, sebb wrote: > On 6 May 2016 at 13:16, wrote: >> Author: bimargulies >> Date: Fri May 6 12:16:39 2016 >> New Revi

Re: svn commit: r1742539 - /commons/proper/io/trunk/pom.xml

2016-05-08 Thread Benson Margulies
When I arrived as the RM, I found a URL in there that ended with 'commons-i'. So, when I did the release, I patched it to end with 'commons-io' before running the site-deploy that runs the maven-scm-publish-plugin. The result was javadoc at the root of the site, instead of down where it belongs.

Re: Fixing the commons-io javadoc

2016-05-06 Thread Benson Margulies
; 15:20 Uhr: >> >>> Hello Benson, >>> >>> Benson Margulies schrieb am Fr., 6. Mai 2016 um >>> 14:29 Uhr: >>> >>>> I'd like to. >>>> >>>> Problem 1: >>>> >>>> On this page, the 2.4 link po

Fixing the commons-io javadoc

2016-05-06 Thread Benson Margulies
I'd like to. Problem 1: On this page, the 2.4 link points to a generic 'api-release' directory instead of to 2.4. http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/ I'd fix that, but when I use the CMS bookmarklet on this page, I'm not shown the content of this page, I'm shown the top of the entire c

Re: [io] commons-io 2.5 release notes and Javadocs are the 2.4 versions

2016-04-25 Thread Benson Margulies
I followed the instructions for the doc and the javadoc didn't work. I posted email and no one replied. Now that I am trying turning home I can research more On Apr 25, 2016 11:32 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > Hi, > > The Commons IO 2.5 release notes link at > https://commons.apache.org/prop

Re: [ANN] Apache Commons IO 2.5 Released

2016-04-22 Thread Benson Margulies
https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/MVNCENTRAL-1060 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: > Looks like something is amiss with the central sync, the artifacts are at > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/public/commons-io/commons-io/ > > You probably need to file an i

Re: [ANN] Apache Commons IO 2.5 Released

2016-04-22 Thread Benson Margulies
t; On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:34 PM, sebb wrote: >> > The announce message should not be sent until a day or so after the >> > artifacts have been published in order to give time for the mirrors to >

Re: [ANN] Apache Commons IO 2.5 Released

2016-04-21 Thread Benson Margulies
up, I'd be grateful. --benson > > This should be explained in the release docs. > > > On 22 April 2016 at 02:08, Benson Margulies wrote: >> Commons IO is a Java library of utilities to assist with developing IO >> functionality. >> >> Release n

[ANN] Apache Commons IO 2.5 Released

2016-04-21 Thread Benson Margulies
Commons IO is a Java library of utilities to assist with developing IO functionality. Release notes for version 2.5 are at https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/upgradeto2_5.html. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-21 Thread Benson Margulies
This vote passes, with +1 votes from Gary Gregory Oliver Heger Emmanuel Bourg and no other votes that I observed. On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 14/04/2016 17:41, Benson Margulies a écrit : > >> [X] +1 Release these artifacts > > Tested on Deb

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-15 Thread Benson Margulies
I've now corrected the binaries. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:19 PM, sebb wrote: > On 14 April 2016 at 16:41, Benson Margulies wrote: >> Commons-io 2.5 is offered for a release vote. >> >> Commons-io 2.5 RC4 materials are available for review here: >> https:

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-15 Thread Benson Margulies
source distributions are correct. > > Can anybody double-check whether the problem is on my side? > > Oliver > > Am 14.04.2016 um 17:41 schrieb Benson Margulies: > > Commons-io 2.5 is offered for a release vote. > > > > Commons-io 2.5 RC4 materials are avai

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-15 Thread Benson Margulies
d have been spared all this email. > > Ralph > >> On Apr 15, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:39 AM, James Carman >> wrote: >>> What is with everyone's aversion to using the Maven Release Plugin? I >>&

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-15 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:39 AM, James Carman wrote: > What is with everyone's aversion to using the Maven Release Plugin? I > realize that it may not do exactly what we need out of the box, but it's a > very useful tool. At home, I push a button in my Jenkins setup and it cuts > a new release

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-15 Thread Benson Margulies
sted on >> https://maven.apache.org/maven-release/maven-release-plugin/prepare-mojo.html, >> the tag* options might meet your needs. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brent >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >> >

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-15 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:33 PM, sebb wrote: > On 15 April 2016 at 02:19, Benson Margulies wrote: >> Sebb, >> >> I don't know why you think I could distinguish the following possible >> behaviors of prior RMs with a reasonable level of effort: > > As I hav

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
Sebb, I don't know why you think I could distinguish the following possible behaviors of prior RMs with a reasonable level of effort: 1: didn't use the maven-release-plugin 2: did use the maven-release-plugin and then used svn mvn to rename the tag it created 3: did use the maven-release-plugin,

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:47 PM, sebb wrote: > On 14 April 2016 at 14:11, Benson Margulies wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >>> The instructions offer two approaches as equivalent: manual tagging >>> and pom-editing, and t

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
I've put up repaired doc. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I think I know what happened to CLIRR. > > I'll push new staged doc soon. > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Ben

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
I think I know what happened to CLIRR. I'll push new staged doc soon. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Gary Gregory >> wrote: >> >

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
r 2.5. > > Gary > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> Commons-io 2.5 is offered for a release vote. >> >> Commons-io 2.5 RC4 materials are available for review here: >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/io/ (sv

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
yle.html > the link to line 313 is broken: > http://people.apache.org/~bimargulies/commons-io-2.5-RC4/xref/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/io/output/WriterOutputStream.html#L313 > > Gary > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> Commons-io 2.5

[VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
Commons-io 2.5 is offered for a release vote. Commons-io 2.5 RC4 materials are available for review here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/io/ (svn revision 13247) Maven artifacts are here: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1174/org/apach

Re: Site staging

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
Plus this typo: scm:svn:https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/commons-i/ On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > When I ran 'mvn site' as instructed, I saw svn commits fly by. This > suggests that the site is in fa

Site staging

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
When I ran 'mvn site' as instructed, I saw svn commits fly by. This suggests that the site is in fact staged to CMS, and the instructions with respect to people or home are wrong. Can anyone shed any light? - To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > The instructions offer two approaches as equivalent: manual tagging > and pom-editing, and the release plugin. > > If you just use the default options and hit a few times, > you'll get the tag: commons-io-2.5, NOT com

Is there an missing bit in the instructions for making a release?

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
The instructions offer two approaches as equivalent: manual tagging and pom-editing, and the release plugin. If you just use the default options and hit a few times, you'll get the tag: commons-io-2.5, NOT commons-io-2.5-RCx. The manual process will, on the other hand, name the tag commons-io-2.5

JIRA access

2016-04-14 Thread Benson Margulies
As predicted, a shortage. Can I have access to set fix versions? Or can someone set it for IO-494 and IO-492 to 2.5? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.ap

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-12 Thread Benson Margulies
I built this wrong. Please consider this vote [CANCELLED]; I'll try again and post another vote. I misunderstood the web page the first time about how you deal with RC status and the maven-release-plugin. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I'm working

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-12 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm working on moving the stuff to dist. I'm working on 'home'. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, sebb wrote: > On 12 April 2016 at 12:42, Benson Margulies wrote: >> We have fixed quite a few bugs and added some significant enhancements >> since Commons I

a problem with staging the site

2016-04-12 Thread Benson Margulies
I posted the vote, and then realized that I don't understand how to stage the site with the changes to people.apache.org. I'm also puzzled that this isn't all being done via the CMS. I used lftp and pushed the tree, but it isn't showing up when visited from a browser. ---

[VOTE] Release commons-io 2.5 based on RC4

2016-04-12 Thread Benson Margulies
We have fixed quite a few bugs and added some significant enhancements since Commons IO 2.4 was released, so I would like to release Commons IO 2.5. NOTE: because this is just an RC, and because I'm not a PMC member, I'm pointing to the release on Nexus rather than copying it to dist. If this is

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
Benson Margulies +sub 4096R/C5E91334 2010-10-23 + +-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- +Version: GnuPG v1 + +mQINBEzDDl0BEADHvJW2uff8vfxbfy0IvNOK4aytU+HVEvKEmuSqYEzC8i3BF6RT +LOxTeRFlu92rYz5ypD0mdNCzQaH0xbkcjialP6FpPCByrM9fFv6hmxZFSY71rvqz

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
, sebb wrote: > >> On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies wrote: >> > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of >> > discussion of same on the relevant web page. >> > >> >> AIUI the dist/ tree will never be m

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of discussion of same on the relevant web page. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > First Karma issue: > > SendingKEYS > Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
rbidden svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file: svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp' On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3. > > And there are recent commits. > >

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
6 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > >> On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote: >> > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me >> > enough permission. >> >> Benson, >> >> Willing volunteers are always welcome

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
A permissions > have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I have been > waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release. > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Benson Margulies" > To: "Commons Developers List" > Sent: Monday,

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else? >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory >> wrote: >> > I think we got started and staled a w

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else? On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to step > up or step back in. > > Gary > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:

Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies
There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org

Re: [Math] How fast is fast enough?

2016-02-06 Thread Benson Margulies
1. I don't understand the source of urgency here. If someone has a new algorithm they want to release to the general public, they can put it on github. It does not matter very much if a method is sitting in Apache (commons) Math on any particular schedule. It's not like adding a feature to some pla

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread Benson Margulies
gh-pages is the right place for it. You just have to browse to the correct place on github.io to see it. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Dave Brosius wrote: > Correct. > > This was the branch that Mr Shapiro used when he introduced the project to > us, so that's where i did the work. And yes, i

Re: Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-02-17 Thread Benson Margulies
yone interested in regular expressions, again? > > Hey Benson, > > Just wanted to let you and the rest of the commons dev list that re2j > is now in the open: please see https://github.com/google/re2j. Please > take a look! > > Regards, > James > > On Mon, Feb 9, 201

Re: Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-02-09 Thread Benson Margulies
ews. Thanks! > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Thomas Neidhart >> wrote: >>> On 02/03/2015 01:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>> The irony here is that the Java HSRE port happened becaus

Re: Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-02-03 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > On 02/03/2015 01:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> The irony here is that the Java HSRE port happened because it seemed >> easier than an RE2 port. Note the same statements about API's pretty >> much apply. >

Re: Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-02-02 Thread Benson Margulies
The irony here is that the Java HSRE port happened because it seemed easier than an RE2 port. Note the same statements about API's pretty much apply. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > On 02/02/2015 11:20 PM, James Ring wrote: >> I spoke to one of the authors of re2j, a Goog

Re: Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-02-01 Thread Benson Margulies
Are you all familiar with the expression, 'excessive fascination with the Apache brand?' Here I am expressing the exact opposite. If there are people out there reading this who have a potential use for this thing, I encourage them to kick its tires. If that leads to some enthusiasm, I'm willing to

Re: Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-01-31 Thread Benson Margulies
UTCH-1014[2] > http://tusker.org/regex/regex_benchmark.html[3] > https://github.com/knowitall/openregex[4] > http://sourceforge.net/p/languagetool/mailman/languagetool-devel/thread/69f229c0a58d3245d511dafaa82feafc%40danielnaber.de/#msg31280519 > > From: Benson Margulies > To: Common

Anyone interested in regular expressions, again?

2015-01-31 Thread Benson Margulies
So, once upon a time, there was a regex library here. It was retired, presumably on the grounds that it was rendered obsolete by the JRE's native support. However, the JRE's regular expressions have a pretty severe problem; they have unbounded (or at least, very, very, bad) execution time for some

XML Schema and Java 1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm tired of Java 1.4. Are there users of XML Schema still stuck there?

Re: [math] why no tag for MATH_2_0?

2010-02-13 Thread Benson Margulies
Thanks. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> I mistyped. rc4. > > Yes RC4 was the vote that passed: > > http://markmail.org/message/nbwdch6vbuev4num > > I have rename

Re: [math] why no tag for MATH_2_0?

2010-02-13 Thread Benson Margulies
reliable source of information than me on this. Luc Siegfried Goeschl Benson Margulies wrote: There is a tag for RC2 of 2.0, but not for 2.0 itself. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For

[math] why no tag for MATH_2_0?

2010-02-12 Thread Benson Margulies
There is a tag for RC2 of 2.0, but not for 2.0 itself. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org

Re: [lang][collections] Overlap; Collections thoughts

2010-01-02 Thread Benson Margulies
- it looks like this is more along the lines of the Collections as new > data structures/algorithms rather than Collections as JDK enhancer? > > Ignoring the edge case overlaps with Math and Lang anyway. > > Hen > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Benson Margulies > wrot

Re: [lang][collections] Overlap; Collections thoughts

2009-12-30 Thread Benson Margulies
Henri, To make this more interesting, the new collections over in mahout-math might be covering some of the territory you are looking for here. --benson On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > Overlap between Lang and Collections is starting to increase a bit. > Requested items

Re: [lang] Generic object factories

2009-12-26 Thread Benson Margulies
Please pick another name, whatever else you do. JAXB uses ObjectFactory. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org

primitives work

2009-12-11 Thread Benson Margulies
Folks, Given that Mahout has forked and sorted out a copy of the COLT collections and the math it depends on, I think it makes sense to do the substantive work in their fork (sadly, that means patches instead of a sandbox, but I'll survive), and then, which it's all working, reopen a discussion ab

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
little bit easier ... :-) > > Cheers, > > Siegfried Goeschl > > Benson Margulies wrote: >> So, the silence is rather noisy in response to the discussion about >> commons-math. Commons PMC members, what's the story here? Why is it >> apparently easy for

Re: [math] getting changes included into commons-math (was Re: Home for the colt fork)

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
nix a écrit : >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >> >>> This is interesting. We have a raft of mathematically qualified >>> committers on Mahout, and this message asking for help on >>> commons-math, and a raft of code marooned at

Re: [math] getting changes included into commons-math (was Re: Home for the colt fork)

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
end on commons >> math.  If that problem isn't solved, then there is no way to depend on >> commons math. >> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >> >>> We can't possibly have a dependency on Mahout in the long term. Eith

Advertising (for free)

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
stackoverflow.com is accepting free filler adds from open source things. Should this group come up with an add for asf-via-mentoring? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: de

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
wrote: > Bring them in!  We will likely need them as well. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> maps. >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >>  Which part did you care about? >>> >>> O

Another kind of community resource

2009-12-08 Thread Benson Margulies
http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires TLP's might need some help dealing with the consequences of success. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org

Re: Home for the colt fork

2009-12-08 Thread Benson Margulies
in a "commons" > library.  That seems kind of backwards.  If Mahout wants to offload > this stuff, we can move it into a library in commons (which is > typically how stuff used to happen in Jakarta). > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >

Home for the colt fork

2009-12-08 Thread Benson Margulies
Mahout now has a fork of a portion of the 'category A' portion of the CERN colt library forked. The Mahout fork is, of course, in the Mahout tree under a Mahout Java package and Maven triple. I want to use the collections classes from Mahout as the core to a new set of commons-primitives classes t

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
maps. On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: Which part did you care about? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Benson Margulies >wrote: Aha, you didn't take the part I care about most, but your grab of the jet stuff may help me grab the collections stuff. This is almost

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
alled "matrix" - the name "colt" is tradmarked by > CERN, so > we're not using that name as such. > >  -jake > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> I just checked this out and there is no colt in there. I got rev 88815

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
uild colt without the top-level, but you know more about maven than I > do. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> Ted, I just figured out why I should take you up on your offer. Where >> in svn is the Mahout fork? >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
committed to maintaining its status as an independent library and are > avoiding injecting any other dependencies. > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> >> The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative >> containers on basic t

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Oh, drat, NOW I see your addition to the JIRA. Sorry about that. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Folks, >> >> The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative >

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
09 at 5:24 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Folks, >> >> The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative >> containers on basic types: http://acs.lbl.gov/~hoschek/colt. The >> license looks

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
ome either top-level or part of commons and that > at the least, there are potential consumers of Colt who would rather not > have any Hadoop dependencies. > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> I'm trying to make a ASL replacement for Trove,

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
ed to maintaining its status as an independent library and are > avoiding injecting any other dependencies. > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> >> The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative >> containers on basic t

Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Folks, The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative containers on basic types: http://acs.lbl.gov/~hoschek/colt. The license looks like it might be an 'A'. I've posted a JIRA to legal to check. --benson - To

Re: Sandbox politeness

2009-12-05 Thread Benson Margulies
into proper after all your hard work! > > On Dec 5, 2009 9:55 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote: > > Yes. I need to get educated on the existing primitives parent > structure and conventions. > > However, now that I've understood what is and isn't in the current &

Re: Sandbox politeness

2009-12-05 Thread Benson Margulies
I'll return to housekeeping questions. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:15 PM, James Carman wrote: > So, you're saying you're going to have a "core" module and a benchmark > module?  Both of them under a pom-style project called > primitives-parent or something like

Obsoleteness of some of primitives

2009-12-04 Thread Benson Margulies
It looks to me as if a great deal of the current primitives package is obsoleted by autoboxing. For now, I'm concentrating on adding what got me started, which is sets and maps that do NOT do autoboxing. At some point I'll ask for thoughts about deleting all the redundant code and calling this 2.0

Sandbox politeness

2009-12-04 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm inclined to push the current content of primitives down a directory to make a space to put a benchmark module. Is that objectionable? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Sandbox karma request (was Re: primitives)

2009-12-04 Thread Benson Margulies
Looks like I create a structure in sandbox/primitives and go from there. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > Benson Margulies wrote: >> Thanks. Can you point me to a page describing where the sandy area is in svn? > > http://commons.apache.org/svninfo.html > &

Re: Sandbox karma request (was Re: primitives)

2009-12-03 Thread Benson Margulies
Thanks. Can you point me to a page describing where the sandy area is in svn? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > Benson Margulies wrote: >> Oh, oops, sorry about the one more message on the old thread. >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Rahul Akolkar

Re: Sandbox karma request (was Re: primitives)

2009-12-03 Thread Benson Margulies
; On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Did my email register as a request for sandbox karma? >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: >>> Or you could start up a sandbox project. We've had good success with >&g

Re: primitives

2009-12-03 Thread Benson Margulies
it back into commons. Or maybe I >>> should just start teeing up patches at commons? I find that >>> reorganizing changes that might be called for to do generics and such >>> are really clumsy  in patches, so svn cp-ing to a lab might still make >>> sense.

Re: primitives

2009-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
o do that and we can add karma. > > Hen > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Stephen, >> >> It's interesting to me that the world in general knows about Trove, >> but not so much this. >> >> The fact that the front p

Re: primitives

2009-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
nent. >> >> So +1 to a sandbox branch to primitives if you have ideas you'd like >> to play with. ASF committers get karma to the sandbox on request, so >> just need you to want to do that and we can add karma. >> >> Hen >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009

Re: primitives

2009-11-30 Thread Benson Margulies
-benson On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> I proposed a lab over at labs in which to start construction of >> something much like what commons-primitives describes itself as >> setting out to do. The web page fo

primitives

2009-11-30 Thread Benson Margulies
Hello commons dev, I proposed a lab over at labs in which to start construction of something much like what commons-primitives describes itself as setting out to do. The web page for primitives suggests a rather dormant state. Is there anybody in there actively working on primitives? --benson

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