Am Dienstag 22 Mai 2012, 11:28:27 schrieb Gilles Sadowski:
> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 09:40:25PM +0200, Heinz Kredel wrote:
> > Am Dienstag 15 Mai 2012, 23:25:46 schrieb Gilles Sadowski:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > > as I am also interested in short term serialization just for
> > > > moving
> > > > o
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 09:40:25PM +0200, Heinz Kredel wrote:
> Am Dienstag 15 Mai 2012, 23:25:46 schrieb Gilles Sadowski:
> > Hello.
> >
> > > as I am also interested in short term serialization just for moving
> > > objects between a distributed virtual machines and not in long term
> > > serial
Am Dienstag 15 Mai 2012, 23:25:46 schrieb Gilles Sadowski:
> Hello.
>
> > as I am also interested in short term serialization just for moving
> > objects between a distributed virtual machines and not in long term
> > serialization, I would support the discussion up to now. To express our
> > inte
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:50:15PM +0200, Axel wrote:
> Hi
>
> In my opinion for more advanced uses it makes sense to use tools like
> Googles protocol-buffers for serialization:
> http://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/javatutorial
This is indeed one possibility (which by the way sho
Hello.
>
> as I am also interested in short term serialization just for moving objects
> between a distributed virtual machines and not in long term serialization, I
> would support the discussion up to now. To express our intentions we could
> make an interface, say
>
> public interface Tr
Hi,
for long term serialization I would also look for an other mechanism than
implementing Serializable. I would prefere an ASCII/JSON/XML kind of
externalizable format. This would have the advantage of not being limited
Java, but open for processing with other languages.
I did not see use ca
Hi
In my opinion for more advanced uses it makes sense to use tools like
Googles protocol-buffers for serialization:
http://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/javatutorial
The main advantage is, that you can share data with applications
written in C++ or Python.
--
Axel Kramer
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Hi all,
as I am also interested in short term serialization just for moving objects
between a distributed virtual machines and not in long term serialization, I
would support the discussion up to now. To express our intentions we could
make an interface, say
public interface Transportable ex
> [...]
> >
> > Hmm, a "PointValuePair" is not a "Pair"... That's an original view. :-)
^^^
>
> I am not sure whether this was an attempt at humor or not.
See .
>
> My point is not that PointValuePair is not a pair (w
Le 12/05/2012 19:10, Gilles Sadowski a écrit :
>> [...]
>>>
>>> I have tried to set up a clean serialization process for the classes
>>> that needs it, starting with the PointValuePair class as requested in
>>> [MATH-787].
>>>
>>> It turns out several previous choices completely prevent this to be
> [...]
> >
> > I have tried to set up a clean serialization process for the classes
> > that needs it, starting with the PointValuePair class as requested in
> > [MATH-787].
> >
> > It turns out several previous choices completely prevent this to be done.
> >
> > At the beginning, we had a Poin
Luc Maisonobe wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Le 09/05/2012 13:41, Gilles Sadowski a écrit :
>> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:03:58AM -0400, James Carman wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Luc Maisonobe
>>> wrote:
> Is there such a thing as short-term serialization?
Yes, of course, and t
Hi all,
Le 09/05/2012 13:41, Gilles Sadowski a écrit :
> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:03:58AM -0400, James Carman wrote:
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Is there such a thing as short-term serialization?
>>>
>>> Yes, of course, and this what many people need. This is wh
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:03:58AM -0400, James Carman wrote:
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
> >> Is there such a thing as short-term serialization?
> >
> > Yes, of course, and this what many people need. This is what James
> > called marshalling/unmarshalling. This is a st
Hi James,
2012/5/9 James Carman :
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Sébastien Brisard
> wrote:
>> Setting aside the discussion on serialization, this would probably be
>> a nice extension. The problem is to find a good (as in "widely used")
>> standard. Do you think the file formats used by R are
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Sébastien Brisard
wrote:
> Setting aside the discussion on serialization, this would probably be
> a nice extension. The problem is to find a good (as in "widely used")
> standard. Do you think the file formats used by R are good candidates
> (meaning: used outside
Hi James,
2012/5/9 James Carman :
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
>>> Is there such a thing as short-term serialization?
>>
>> Yes, of course, and this what many people need. This is what James
>> called marshalling/unmarshalling. This is a standard way to communicate
>> be
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
>> Is there such a thing as short-term serialization?
>
> Yes, of course, and this what many people need. This is what James
> called marshalling/unmarshalling. This is a standard way to communicate
> between some applications that share a commo
Hi Gilles,
Le 08/05/2012 23:05, Gilles Sadowski a écrit :
> On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 02:55:47PM -0400, James Carman wrote:
>> I don't know that you want to get into supporting long-term
>> serialization support. I would say CM should support transient
>> serialization (if that makes any sense), su
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 02:55:47PM -0400, James Carman wrote:
> I don't know that you want to get into supporting long-term
> serialization support. I would say CM should support transient
> serialization (if that makes any sense), such as
> marshalling/unmarshalling. If you guarantee long-term s
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:43:53PM +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 01:44 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
>
> > Sorry to correct you: It was removed because it was not implemented
> > properly. As a matter of principle, it is better to not support something
> > rather to give a false sense
I don't know that you want to get into supporting long-term
serialization support. I would say CM should support transient
serialization (if that makes any sense), such as
marshalling/unmarshalling. If you guarantee long-term serialization
support (reading data from serialized for much later, per
On 05/08/2012 01:44 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
> Sorry to correct you: It was removed because it was not implemented
> properly. As a matter of principle, it is better to not support something
> rather to give a false sense of what can be done with the code.
I do not want to start a heated discus
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 01:22:38PM +0200, Sébastien Brisard wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 2012/5/8 Thomas Neidhart :
> > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Gilles Sadowski <
> > gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
> >
> >> > I am in favor of this second option: add Serializable were needed upon
> >> > > requ
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 12:51:28PM +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Gilles Sadowski <
> gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
>
> > > I am in favor of this second option: add Serializable were needed upon
> > > > request.
> > >
> > > +1
> >
>
> +1
>
>
> > > > In t
Hello,
2012/5/8 Thomas Neidhart :
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Gilles Sadowski <
> gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
>
>> > I am in favor of this second option: add Serializable were needed upon
>> > > request.
>> >
>> > +1
>>
>
> +1
>
>
>> > > In this case, the request seems fair as the
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Gilles Sadowski <
gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
> > I am in favor of this second option: add Serializable were needed upon
> > > request.
> >
> > +1
>
+1
> > > In this case, the request seems fair as the class is mainly a
> > > simple container for two va
Hello.
> >>
> >> There is another complaint about some class not being "Serializable":
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-787
> >>
> >> I don't want to argue all over again.
> >>
> >> We should probably add a section in the user guide stating the policy with
> >> regards to this iss
On 8 May 2012 10:26, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
> Le 07/05/2012 22:16, Gilles Sadowski a écrit :
>> Hi.
>
> Hi Gilles,
>
>>
>> There is another complaint about some class not being "Serializable":
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-787
>>
>> I don't want to argue all over again.
>>
>> We sh
Le 07/05/2012 22:16, Gilles Sadowski a écrit :
> Hi.
Hi Gilles,
>
> There is another complaint about some class not being "Serializable":
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-787
>
> I don't want to argue all over again.
>
> We should probably add a section in the user guide stating
Hi.
There is another complaint about some class not being "Serializable":
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-787
I don't want to argue all over again.
We should probably add a section in the user guide stating the policy with
regards to this issue.
The problem is that I don't know what
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