Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Axel
2011/10/3 Sébastien Brisard sebastien.bris...@m4x.org: Hello, I'm using quite extensively the Field/FieldElement interfaces, but am sometimes feeling the need for less stringent sets like Abelian Groups (no multiplication) and Rings (no division). This would allow me to carry out some

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Thanks for the link! It seems very interesting, I'll give it a try! Sébastien 2011/10/4 Axel axel...@gmail.com: 2011/10/3 Sébastien Brisard sebastien.bris...@m4x.org: Hello, I'm using quite extensively the Field/FieldElement interfaces, but am sometimes feeling the need for less stringent

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 03/10/2011 19:50, Mikkel Meyer Andersen a écrit : 2011/10/3 Sébastien Brisardsebastien.bris...@m4x.org: I would be curious to see how such a class would actually help you. I have to admit that a big part of my curiosity is due to the fact that I don't understand how it really would help.

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Greg Sterijevski
Pardon my ignorance of Abelian Fields, but what would be a use of this set of classes? Do they simplify some calculation or make some code faster? The question is, are they numerical? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Luc Maisonobe luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Le 03/10/2011 19:50, Mikkel Meyer

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/4/11 5:42 PM, Greg Sterijevski wrote: Pardon my ignorance of Abelian Fields, but what would be a use of this set of classes? Do they simplify some calculation or make some code faster? The question is, are they numerical? We can all look at Sebastien's use cases to assess general

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/3/11 10:23 AM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: I would be curious to see how such a class would actually help you. I have to admit that a big part of my curiosity is due to the fact that I don't understand how it really would help. It could be, as you say, beautiful but useful is sometimes

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-04 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hello everyone, so we all agree that adding these structures to CM would be compartively easy (reusing what has been done with FieldElement/Field). Whether it would be useful is another issue... What is most interesting is the example use cases.  I think we all know that it is straightforward

[math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hello, I'm using quite extensively the Field/FieldElement interfaces, but am sometimes feeling the need for less stringent sets like Abelian Groups (no multiplication) and Rings (no division). This would allow me to carry out some calculations on different types of number simply by changing the

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/3/11 7:00 AM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: Hello, I'm using quite extensively the Field/FieldElement interfaces, but am sometimes feeling the need for less stringent sets like Abelian Groups (no multiplication) and Rings (no division). This would allow me to carry out some calculations on

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Sébastien Brisard
2011/10/3 Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com: On 10/3/11 7:00 AM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: Hello, I'm using quite extensively the Field/FieldElement interfaces, but am sometimes feeling the need for less stringent sets like Abelian Groups (no multiplication) and Rings (no division). This would

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Phil Steitz
2011/10/3 Sébastien Brisard sebastien.bris...@m4x.org: 2011/10/3 Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com: On 10/3/11 7:00 AM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: Hello, I'm using quite extensively the Field/FieldElement interfaces, but am sometimes feeling the need for less stringent sets like Abelian Groups

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Ted Dunning
I would be curious to see how such a class would actually help you. I have to admit that a big part of my curiosity is due to the fact that I don't understand how it really would help. It could be, as you say, beautiful but useful is sometimes are more difficult goal with these things. I would

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Sébastien Brisard
I would be curious to see how such a class would actually help you.  I have to admit that a big part of my curiosity is due to the fact that I don't understand how it really would help.  It could be, as you say, beautiful but useful is sometimes are more difficult goal with these things. I

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Ted Dunning
I am interested. Not convinced, but interested. 2011/10/3 Sébastien Brisard sebastien.bris...@m4x.org If you are still interested, I'll post (not commit, I got the message!!!) tentative interfaces once I've written them.

Re: [math] Support for Abelian Groups and Rings?

2011-10-03 Thread Mikkel Meyer Andersen
2011/10/3 Sébastien Brisard sebastien.bris...@m4x.org: I would be curious to see how such a class would actually help you.  I have to admit that a big part of my curiosity is due to the fact that I don't understand how it really would help.  It could be, as you say, beautiful but useful is