Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I agree Joe, > > We only have a very few immutable rules. Everything else is policy. As > long as policy don't break those immutable rules the they can shift and > change as much as they need to in order to empower individual

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:50 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Way talks On 16 February 2015 at 16:51, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I think that's exactly it. If we write policy down it becomes a rule. Huh? Written policy only

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread sebb
m other community members, but it > shouldn't restrict them. > > Ross > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > From: jan i<mailto:j...@apache.org> > Sent: ‎2/‎16/‎2015 8:43 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.or

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
y Windows Phone From: jan i<mailto:j...@apache.org> Sent: ‎2/‎16/‎2015 8:43 AM To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: Apache Way talks s On 16 February 2015 at 17:21, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: >

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread jan i
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RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ommunity.apache.org> Subject: Re: Apache Way talks On Sat, Feb 14, 2015, at 01:38 PM, jan i wrote: > I have a feeling that we are standing at a crossroad where many > questions like Directd funding, ApacheCON, entry ticket to ASF > (Incubator/pTLP) > tear us apart, and I believe

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015, at 01:38 PM, jan i wrote: > I have a feeling that we are standing at a crossroad where many > questions like Directd funding, ApacheCON, entry ticket to ASF > (Incubator/pTLP) > tear us apart, and I believe it is high time the members of ASF take a stand > (whatever it may b

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
n Santa Bitergia may not help us.) louis > > From: Louis Suárez-Potts<mailto:lui...@gmail.com> > Sent: ‎2/‎14/‎2015 9:48 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Apache Way talks > > >>

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Benson Margulies
t from my Windows Phone >> ____________ >> From: Louis Suárez-Potts<mailto:lui...@gmail.com> >> Sent: ‎2/‎14/‎2015 9:48 AM >> To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: Apache Way talks >> &

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread jan i
t; From: Louis Suárez-Potts<mailto:lui...@gmail.com> > Sent: ‎2/‎14/‎2015 9:48 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Apache Way talks > > > > On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ro

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
mail.com> Sent: ‎2/‎14/‎2015 9:48 AM To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: Apache Way talks > On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> There is value in these sessions, some

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we >> probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do some >> new stuff along the lines of: >>

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
: Re: Apache Way talks On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we > probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do > some new stuff along the lines of: > > How is the ASF diffe

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Nick Burch
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do some new stuff along the lines of: How is the ASF different from other foundations? Why should I

Apache Way talks

2015-02-13 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Nick called my bluff on my review comment for his Apache Way talk proposal. I said we need to update these and so Nick asked for suggestions - damn him making me work for my comment ;-) Here's what I was thinking when I wrote that comment... For years we've rolled out the same "this is how apac