Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
On 3/12/13 5:26 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: One possible solution: Have JS-only plugins add a plugin tag with a name but no value. Thinking more generally here, as Anis said, the problem here is dependencies. I think determining how aware plugman needs to be of the project is

RE: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Leutwyler, Markus
Please star me :) Subject: Re: Who's who at cordova I have starred it. If anyone else here is missing a star, let me know. -Steve

Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Gord Tanner
Nice! Seems to be missing one commit: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-labs.git;a=commitdiff;h=76ecc678a888932695eb62695711b8a83f85ae87 Still waiting for Mozilla to send me the dev phone. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-14, at 1:18 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I'm working on a high-level what-not-how sort of document for the whole plugin tools story, and this is something I keep coming back to. It's looking like we'll need to know what plugins are installed and where files have been placed where. This is important for uninstalling and also for updating

Re: HideKeyboardFormAccessoryBar

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
I think this falls into the same category as the KeyboardShrinksView setting I added recently. Both properties would be useful to toggle at runtime, and I we had a thread discussing the possibility of an API to toggle settings at runtime. Also note that a hidden accessory will probably require

Re: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I have initialized a dossier and require enstellation. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: Profile created. Star needed. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Leutwyler, Markus markus.leutwy...@hp.comwrote: Please star me :) Subject: Re: Who's who

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
I'm wary of creating an additional manifest.. What if we came up with a convention for storing each plugin's plugin.xml within the native project structure that the plugin got installed into? It IS extra space needed, but a few kb per plugin doesn't seem so bad (this is just my naïve first-pass

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Copying the plugin.xml into the platform's project somewhere sounds like a good idea to me. I don't think we'd need to look in the config.xml to see what's installed then. We can just look at what plugin.xml files exist. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: I'm

Re: Updated W3C Contacts api

2013-03-14 Thread Becky Gibson
Hi, Josh, Yes, I've worked in W3C working groups - I know the risks of implementing too early in the process! However, when we wanted to add an API for contacts into PhoneGap we needed a place to start so we used the W3C working draft available at the time. We realized that it would likely

Re: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Steven Gill
It has been done On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.orgwrote: I have initialized a dossier and require enstellation. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Profile created. Star needed. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I wish we could use npm's solution for that (let every package in node_modules have its own copy of its dependencies). That works for node but not for us, because these classes need to go into a single global namespace that's getting called by the bridge. I do like the idea of using the

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
Sounds good to me Anis. More comments inline below. On 3/14/13 10:47 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: The hard stuff is dealing with plugin versions, dependencies and Cordova versions. If we think of these problems in light of a single cordova project, I think it gets easier because:

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Lorin Beer
Cordova versions: we have engine tags. A single cordova project is stuck to a single cordova version. Attempting to install a plugin into a project running a different version of cordova should fail. Simple as that. I'm more comfortable with a warning. While warnings are often (re:always) ignored

priv...@cordova.apache.org

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Tried sending a message to this list, but not sure if it went anywhere. Tried then emailing private-subscr...@cordova.apache.org and sent another email. Again, not sure if it got through. Did anyone on the list see an email come through? Is there some special step for getting onto the private@

Re: priv...@cordova.apache.org

2013-03-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@google.com wrote: Tried sending a message to this list, but not sure if it went anywhere. Tried then emailing private-subscr...@cordova.apache.org and sent another email. Again, not sure if it got through. Did anyone on the list see an

Re: priv...@cordova.apache.org

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Gotcha! Thanks. I've added a note about this to our wiki. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@google.com wrote: Tried sending a message to this list, but not sure if it went anywhere. Tried

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
Even if we can do something clever with the code for those two versions of a plugin, the exec call names are still in one namespace. Adding versions to them would, in my opinion, make the cure worse than the disease. Then a plugin author would have to update his code every time any of his

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
I agree. This is not a problem worth solving (if you have ever worked with Ruby gems, you know what I'm talking about) And the plugin-depending-on-a-plugin is already happening. Some plugins require Facebook Connect already.. IMO drawing a line in the sand here is a good first step. On 3/14/13

Contacts, and when/how/who removes anything and why

2013-03-14 Thread Josh Soref
Becky wrote: Yes, I've worked in W3C working groups I'm glad you do, I'm concerned about messaging - that others might not understand what it means. I've seen various groups really fail to understand such a detail. - I know the risks of implementing too early in the process! However, when

RE: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Herm Wong
Thanks for catching that Gord, I'll get that commit merged in. Anyone have any idea when the repo will propagate over to github? Subject: Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created From: gtan...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:44:02 -0400 To: dev@cordova.apache.org Nice! Seems to

Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Anis KADRI
It's not automatic. Someone needs to do something somewhere for it to propagate. Same issue with cordova-plugman. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Herm Wong kingoftheo...@hotmail.comwrote: Thanks for catching that Gord, I'll get that commit merged in. Anyone have any idea when the repo will

RE: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Herm Wong
Do I need to log another Infra issue to get it done? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:22:46 -0700 Subject: Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created From: anis.ka...@gmail.com To: dev@cordova.apache.org It's not automatic. Someone needs to do something somewhere for it to propagate. Same issue

Re: Contacts, and when/how/who removes anything and why

2013-03-14 Thread Becky Gibson
Well, I know that people do use find a lot and are frequently tripped up by it. They get confused over the fact that the fields array is the list of fields that are returned AND are searched. Most people expect all of the contact information returned and they think that the fields are just the

Re: who is James

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
Welcome James and thanks for the intro! I was wondering who you were :) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-12, at 5:26 PM, Lorin Beer lorin.beer@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, thanks for the intro! On Tue,

Re: Shravan - Intro + InAppBrowser Feature addition

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
Welcome Shravan. That's a pretty rad intern role. We have a similar intern, Benn Mapes, at Adobe Vancouver who we unleash on whatever peaks his interest. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: /me highfives all around On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:33 PM, James Jong

Re: Decreasing the Deprecation Time

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
+1 for switching the deprecation window from time to release. Michal summed it up perfectly. It's worth reflecting on Tommy and Simon's input. The deprecation window is there to give users adequate warning that breakage is impending. However, it's just make-work for us, if our user's don't care

Re: New doc with new git workflows

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
Reads very well, nice work Braden! I was going to mention adding the creation of a topic branch for completeness, but Ian, Max, and you have already hashed that out. I would vote to create a Contributor section under Guides. If Marcel feels there's importance in defining roles, then that's where

Re: Decreasing the Deprecation Time

2013-03-14 Thread Tommy-Carlos Williams
I actually think the work would be with it if it actually meant that things didn't break at ALL until something's window closed.. but the reality is that this is a fast moving target and things like plugins are still breaking fairly frequently (which is worse than core api's changing since core

Re: Shravan - Intro + InAppBrowser Feature addition

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
Benn got the cordova-cli working on Windows 8 today and has made progress on adding support for project-level cli tooling in the windows phone implementations! Go interns! On 3/14/13 7:56 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.ca wrote: Welcome Shravan. That's a pretty rad intern role.