RE: Ignoring SSL Errors for InAppBrowser

2013-08-06 Thread Singh, Ramandeep
Andrew Some enterprise apps allow access to their own intranet sites with privately signed certificates. Such apps can't connect to internet usually so there's no way to verify the certificates. As I mentioned earlier, it's pretty easy to access privately signed URLs within the main Cordova web

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Ally Ogilvie
Sorry, I buggered up the list. Full list copied below... > Attendees: If you plan to attend, could you add your name to this list > (inline so that the list grows) and say whether you plan to be co-located: > agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo > mmocny, co-location=Google Waterloo > maxw, co-lo

Re: add "about" command to CLI

2013-08-06 Thread Lucas Holmquist
On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > Just tried it and it works. I have a couple of comments. > > - I think it would be better to have a separate template and then use > util.format() to add all the values. Kinda like we do help() thanks for the feedback, i figured there was an easi

RE: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Ally Ogilvie
Ally, co-location=n/a Tokyo, Japan. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Tommy-Carlos Williams Sent: 07/08/2013 07:53 To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting On 07/08/2013, at 6:15 AM, Bryan Higgins wrote: > agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo > mmo

Re: Removing onNativeReady channel

2013-08-06 Thread Jesse MacFadyen
Windows phone does. Unless we can agree on guaranteed channel order of firing on startup, I still need this. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Gord Tanner wrote: > > That channel used to be there for any platforms that needed some time to warm > up after the web view was initial

Re: Removing onNativeReady channel

2013-08-06 Thread Gord Tanner
That channel used to be there for any platforms that needed some time to warm up after the web view was initialized. I don't think any platforms require this anymore so I am ok with removing it as well. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-06, at 5:37 PM, Jesse wrote: > WP code: > > string native

Re: add "about" command to CLI

2013-08-06 Thread Anis KADRI
Just tried it and it works. I have a couple of comments. - I think it would be better to have a separate template and then use util.format() to add all the values. Kinda like we do help() - I think you should add some tests ;-} On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist wrote: > oh yea,

Re: PROPOSAL: node.js all the script things

2013-08-06 Thread Anis KADRI
+1 if we can somehow automate a user-level node installation (or package it somehow). On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > That's a fair answer! I concur. The main win for me is in android + BB > land, for the reason you name, Jesse. > > On 8/6/13 3:24 PM, "Jesse" wrote: > >>I only

Re: Releases in a 3.0 World

2013-08-06 Thread Gorkem Ercan
Another disadvantage is, this may cause downstream distributions of Cordova to get fragmented. -- Gorkem On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Want to have this as a discussion starter. > > We've previously established that: > 1. Releases for plugman & CLI will not be tied to

Re: PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Anis KADRI
I wrote some tests for Android back when I was writing those bin/ thingies. I think it makes sense to have some higher level blind tests that run against each platform's bin folder. I'd like it be part of cordova-cli though. We already have 40+ repositories. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Jesse

Re: PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Jesse
I am a +1 either way, not sure which is best. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > You mean, can't the tests exist as part of the cordova-cli tests? I > suppose they could. The unit tests in cordova-cli are just that: unit > tests. They do not actually

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Tommy-Carlos Williams
On 07/08/2013, at 6:15 AM, Bryan Higgins wrote: > agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo > mmocny, co-location=Google Waterloo > maxw, co-location=Google Waterloo > aharding, co-location=Adobe Vancouver > filmaj, co-location=Adobe Vancouver > stevegill, co-location=Adobe San Francisco > bhiggins,

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Tommy-Carlos Williams
+1 for sane Asia/Aus time. On 16/07/2013, at 5:59 PM, Ally Ogilvie wrote: > Sensible timezone for Asia/Aus please :) > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > >> Sounds good >> >> On 7/16/13 12:10 AM, "David Pfahler" wrote: >> >>> Count me in for the hangouts etc. >>>

Re: PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
You mean, can't the tests exist as part of the cordova-cli tests? I suppose they could. The unit tests in cordova-cli are just that: unit tests. They do not actually shell out to the platform scripts. This keeps the tests focussed and light (run in < 1 second). A good thing if you're developing on

Re: PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
This will also be a great addition to the min requirements of being a supported platform. +1 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Bonus: no longer need to update the wiki article linked-to below and > instead can update the tests. At least this way platform maintainers will > get a

Re: PROPOSAL: node.js all the script things

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
That's a fair answer! I concur. The main win for me is in android + BB land, for the reason you name, Jesse. On 8/6/13 3:24 PM, "Jesse" wrote: >I only think this should be done for the multi-OS platforms. >Elsewhere it is just a make work project IMHO. >I have spent a lot of time ensuring that I

Re: PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Jesse
Can't this be done vicariously through the cordova-cli tests? @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Bonus: no longer need to update the wiki article linked-to below and > instead can update the tests. At least this way platform maintainers will > get a b

Re: PROPOSAL: node.js all the script things

2013-08-06 Thread Jesse
I only think this should be done for the multi-OS platforms. Elsewhere it is just a make work project IMHO. I have spent a lot of time ensuring that I was not introducing dependencies, then we add node, and we get 600 deps. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Filip Maj wr

PROPOSAL: node.js all the script things

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
I would like to introduce node.js as a dependency for the platform libraries, so that the platform scripts (bin/create, cordova/run, etc) are written in node. Pros: - For multi-OS platforms (Android, BlackBerry), this reduces committer cognitive load as the scripts do not need to be authored in tw

Re: PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
Bonus: no longer need to update the wiki article linked-to below and instead can update the tests. At least this way platform maintainers will get a bit more tangible feedback on those scripts, and possibly higher chance that the scripts get updated :) On 8/6/13 3:07 PM, "Filip Maj" wrote: >I wo

PROPOSAL: platform-spec

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
I would like to propose adding a new repository to cordova called platform-spec. It would be a set of tests that would be run against a cordova-* platform implementation's bin/ folder, testing all of the platform scripts that we have started / attempted to standardize [1]. Reason: I already see d

Re: Removing onNativeReady channel

2013-08-06 Thread Jesse
WP code: string nativeReady = "(function(){ cordova.require('cordova/channel').onNativeReady.fire()})();"; @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Ian Clelland wrote: > I think that's a good idea. If there are no platforms actually using this > signal to indicate anything u

Re: add "about" command to CLI

2013-08-06 Thread Lucas Holmquist
oh yea, and the command is "cordova -i" or "cordova -info" On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Lucas Holmquist wrote: > So i've done a little work on this here: > > https://github.com/lholmquist/cordova-cli/tree/CB-2234 > > atm i've only added the iOS and Android platforms. And it doesn't currently

Re: add "about" command to CLI

2013-08-06 Thread Lucas Holmquist
So i've done a little work on this here: https://github.com/lholmquist/cordova-cli/tree/CB-2234 atm i've only added the iOS and Android platforms. And it doesn't currently get your command history. i have it outputting to the console as well as writing to a file, info.txt , eventually maybe

Re: Removing onNativeReady channel

2013-08-06 Thread Ian Clelland
I think that's a good idea. If there are no platforms actually using this signal to indicate anything useful, then nobody should be listening for it to fire. Deleting it now means that nobody ends up in a situation where they're implicitly depending on a feature that we don't support, don't test,

Releases in a 3.0 World

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Want to have this as a discussion starter. We've previously established that: 1. Releases for plugman & CLI will not be tied to platform releases 2. Releases to plugins will not be tied to platform releases That's not to say we shouldn't sometime co-ordinate them with platform releases, but I thi

Re: [Vote] Transifex Translation : please vote

2013-08-06 Thread Lisa Seacat DeLuca
Andrew, not too late. I started a JIRA issue related to translation here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4461 Basically I ended up going with Crowdin instead of Transifex because Crowdin supports markdown file times making it a LOT easier on our flow. The customer support has been inc

Re: WP8 'Plugin interface' and 'Splash screen' support

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
Sergey, `cordova plugin *` commands all invoke plugman. On 8/1/13 12:26 AM, "Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon)" wrote: >Thanks Benn, regarding WP8 and plugman support: > >Does this mean cli command "cordova plugin add ..." use different >mechanism (not plugman)? I run the following commands and got added

Re: Removing onNativeReady channel

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
I think the onCordovaReady event does what onNativeReady intends to do.. If that makes sense. So removal sounds good to me. Are there cases out there where third party plugins attach to onNativeReady? On 8/6/13 1:21 PM, "Andrew Grieve" wrote: >All of the JS platforms fire onNativeReady in their

Removing onNativeReady channel

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
All of the JS platforms fire onNativeReady in their platform.bootstrap function (used to be bootstrap-$platform.js). Might as well just delete this channel, yes?

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread David Kemp
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Bryan Higgins wrote: > agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo > mmocny, co-location=Google Waterloo > maxw, co-location=Google Waterloo > aharding, co-location=Adobe Vancouver > filmaj, co-location=Adobe Vancouver > stevegill, co-location=Adobe San Francisco > bhiggin

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Bryan Higgins
agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo mmocny, co-location=Google Waterloo maxw, co-location=Google Waterloo aharding, co-location=Adobe Vancouver filmaj, co-location=Adobe Vancouver stevegill, co-location=Adobe San Francisco bhiggins, co-location=BlackBerry Toronto jheifetz, co-location=BlackBerry T

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Michal & I did a test run with the hang-outs on air and it seemed to work really well! We'll give it a try :) No need to fill out your info if you don't plan on talking. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Richard Sentino wrote: > definitely +1 for viewing-only via youtube but pretty sure the record

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Richard Sentino
definitely +1 for viewing-only via youtube but pretty sure the recorded version might get some audience too Richard -- Sent from my mobile Original Message From: Michal Mocny Sent: Wed Aug 07 07:49:55 NZST 2013 To: dev Cc: Andrew Grieve Subject: Re: Post 3.0 release commit

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Ryan Stewart
That could be an ideal solution to that :). Thanks all, =Ryan On 8/6/13 12:53 PM, "Al Harding" wrote: >Ryan come up to the Vancouver office? > > >On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Ryan Stewart wrote: > >> If we're planning on attending from a community standpoint, but aren't >> planning on tal

Re: [Vote] Transifex Translation : please vote

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Finally getting around to this. I think the workflow that you describe sounds great! The project link didn't work for me... maybe I was too slow :(. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > I vote yes. I am a bit worried about translations though. I feel like > people who translat

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Al Harding
Ryan come up to the Vancouver office? On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Ryan Stewart wrote: > If we're planning on attending from a community standpoint, but aren't > planning on talking, is there going to be an easy way to do that or do we > need to add our names to the list? > > And I'm assumi

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Max Woghiren
agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo mmocny, co-location=Google Waterloo maxw, co-location=Google Waterloo aharding, co-location=Adobe Vancouver filmaj, co-location=Adobe Vancouver stevegill, co-location=Adobe San Francisco On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Added my name + loca

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Ryan Stewart
If we're planning on attending from a community standpoint, but aren't planning on talking, is there going to be an easy way to do that or do we need to add our names to the list? And I'm assuming this is open to non-committers based on the subject, but correct me if that's wrong. =Ryan On 8/6/1

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
SGTM On 8/6/13 11:57 AM, "Michal Mocny" wrote: >I like Ians suggestion. I'm happy to trust that contributors know what >constitutes good/bad content and what is/isn't worth sharing, and that we >can go to the lists for the few times where confirmation is needed. Fil, >that okay with you? > >An

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
Added my name + location inline below On 8/6/13 12:33 PM, "Andrew Grieve" wrote: >Want to get the ball rolling on this. > >Please fill out this doodle so we can pick a day: >http://www.doodle.com/i4u89n2k52yne4zt >AFAIK, the *best* timezone-friendly time is 4:30PM PST > >How to meet? - Hangouts

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Michal Mocny
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Want to get the ball rolling on this. > > Please fill out this doodle so we can pick a day: > http://www.doodle.com/i4u89n2k52yne4zt > AFAIK, the *best* timezone-friendly time is 4:30PM PST > > How to meet? - Hangouts have a max 10 person lim

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Al Harding
We'll need 2 locations for the Cordova team at Adobe: >Attendees: If you plan to attend, could you add your name to this list >(inline so that the list grows) and say whether you plan to be co-located: agrieve, co-location=Google Waterloo aharding, co-location=Adobe Vancouver stevegill, co-locati

Re: Post 3.0 release committer and community meeting

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Want to get the ball rolling on this. Please fill out this doodle so we can pick a day: http://www.doodle.com/i4u89n2k52yne4zt AFAIK, the *best* timezone-friendly time is 4:30PM PST How to meet? - Hangouts have a max 10 person limit, but I've found that VC meetings get a bit unwieldy anyways when

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Michal Mocny
I like Ians suggestion. I'm happy to trust that contributors know what constitutes good/bad content and what is/isn't worth sharing, and that we can go to the lists for the few times where confirmation is needed. Fil, that okay with you? Another question, though: should we have templates for the

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Ian Clelland
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Will this mean we will be discussing blog post curation stuff on > dev@cordova.apache.org ? I hope that we can avoid a lot of that -- I'd hate for every potential external contribution to come down to a discussion and vote on the mailing list.

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Ken Wallis
+1 as well. I plan to write some posts on BlackBerry and Cordova and a method to "link" would be great. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. From: dguald...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:48 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: R

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
Will this mean we will be discussing blog post curation stuff on dev@cordova.apache.org ? On 8/6/13 10:46 AM, "Tommy Williams" wrote: >+1 from me as well. > >I like the idea of official posts looking official as well as the side >effect of third party posts getting the traffic benefits. > >- tom

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread dgualdron
+1 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Tommy Williams Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:46:15 To: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Posting Blog Posts +1 from me as well. I like the idea of official posts looking official as well as the side effect of

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Tommy Williams
+1 from me as well. I like the idea of official posts looking official as well as the side effect of third party posts getting the traffic benefits. - tommy On 7 Aug 2013 03:44, "Ian Clelland" wrote: > +1. That's a good approach to separating them, and should encourage > third-party authors to

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Ian Clelland
+1. That's a good approach to separating them, and should encourage third-party authors to submit pieces -- knowing that Apache will drive traffic to their site. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Kemp wrote: > +1 for Michals approach > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Michal Mocny wro

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread David Kemp
+1 for Michals approach On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: > I'de like to make a proposal about how we go about publishing certain blog > posts. I think this is a good practice for Organizational-type blogs to > clearly identify posts which are (1) genuinely origination from t

Re: Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Michal Mocny
I'de like to make a proposal about how we go about publishing certain blog posts. I think this is a good practice for Organizational-type blogs to clearly identify posts which are (1) genuinely origination from the organization, vs (2) those which are just being curated from within the community.

Re: CLI downloads

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
:o On 8/2/13 2:39 PM, "Anis KADRI" wrote: >http://npm-stat.vorb.de/charts.html?package=cordova

Re: w3c Working Groups

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
I am a member of the sys apps working group: http://www.w3.org/2012/sysapps/ Mozilla (FxOS) and samsung+intel (Tizen) lead a lot of the discussions there and IMO the work done in this group better represents cordova's interests. We used to track the DAP, though. On 8/5/13 12:02 PM, "Lisa Seacat

Re: [CLI,Android] Removing FileTransfer plugin fails with ENOENT

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
+1, let's file it as an issue On 8/6/13 7:01 AM, "Andrew Grieve" wrote: >The path where it was looking for the file looks correct to me. Note that >plugins get copied into your project in *two* spots: > >1. within plugins/ >2. within platforms/ > >I think the bug here is that we should ignore wh

Re: Why CLI & Plugman are so slow

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
>cordova plugin ls >cordova platform ls >cordova prepare I don't think any of these commands invoke shelljs >On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > >> cheers >> >> On 7/25/13 10:54 AM, "Andrew Grieve" wrote: >> >> >Issues created. >> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4398

Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser

2013-08-06 Thread Filip Maj
Ripple does exactly what serve does but provides an in-browser emulator experience on top On 8/6/13 7:47 AM, "Wargo, John" wrote: >Thanks. Another question, how is Ripple used with the CLI? > >John M. Wargo >SAP | Charlotte, NC | USA >Office: +1 704.321.0265 | Mobile: +1 704.249.7476 >Email: jo

RE: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser

2013-08-06 Thread Wargo, John
Thanks. Another question, how is Ripple used with the CLI? John M. Wargo SAP | Charlotte, NC | USA Office: +1 704.321.0265 | Mobile: +1 704.249.7476 Email: john.wa...@sap.com Twitter: @johnwargo -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Moc

Posting Blog Posts

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Here's a draft of a "how to write a blog post". I intend to add this to the website's README.md. Wanted to get some feedback / +1 since this is a "process". Writting a Blog Post > > Blog posts live in `www/_posts`. To create a new post: > 1. Copy one of the existing posts i

Re: Why CLI & Plugman are so slow

2013-08-06 Thread Michal Mocny
Just replaced all instances in cordova-cli and plugman, and removed shelljs from node_modules to make *sure* we don't use that one anywhere. (also forced a syntax error to sanity check that I'm sure I'm using the right local version). Results are zero noticeable improvement in perf. May still be

Re: Why CLI & Plugman are so slow

2013-08-06 Thread Michal Mocny
I didn't replace it inside plugman, but assumed that for "plugin ls" and "platform ls" it would not call into plugman.. perhaps it always does for some setup, and I'll try replacing *all* instances for good measure. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Whenever I run "createmo

Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser

2013-08-06 Thread Michal Mocny
file:// urls come with a lot of restrictions in chrome in desktop, but that isn't the intended use case anyway. The intended purpose was to load the web assets from a mobile device instead of loading the bundled versions, so as to get rapid edit-refresh when not making changes to native bits. As

Re: [CLI,Android] Removing FileTransfer plugin fails with ENOENT

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
The path where it was looking for the file looks correct to me. Note that plugins get copied into your project in *two* spots: 1. within plugins/ 2. within platforms/ I think the bug here is that we should ignore when files we're trying to delete are already gone. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:32 P

Re: Why CLI & Plugman are so slow

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Whenever I run "createmobilespec.sh", I get an EMFILE error, which is caused by shelljs.exec leaking file handles, so it must be calling it a good number of times. Did you replace it with shelljs-ffi in plugman as well? Somewhat related - I tried swapping in shelljs-ffi in coho, but it fails afte

Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
One of the original motivations for "cordova serve" was for it to watch for changes and automatically run "prepare" for you. I don't think this is working right now though. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > XHRs won't work by default on certain browsers such as Chrome. I don't