Re: storage

2014-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm trying to not sound like a broken record but I still do not hear an actual use cases that is unique to IndexedDB. I understand that you like it, I do too, and the browsers will support it eventually in Cordova so effort spent there is not really a demonstrable win (to me) unless I hear a use ca

Re: storage

2014-01-06 Thread Jesse
The key win I think is simply having a consistent implementation. CanIUse reports that indexedDB is available on Android 4.4+ and every other of our supported platforms, with a very notable exception of Mobile Safari. Ultimately this is a plugin, and Parashuram is working on it, so I am sure he wou

Re: Plugin Version Control Workflow

2014-01-06 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I've wanted to add Cordova plugin dependencies to the app's top-level config.xml for a long time, but it's never reached the top of my priorities. I think with that support, we can avoid checking in ./plugins/ and ./platforms altogether for 99% of app developers. If it doesn't solve anyone's use ca

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Braden Shepherdson
The unfortunate part is that Eclipse and Xcode are also (more or less) the build systems for iOS and Android. You can build from CLI, and even deploy from the CLI if the stars align and you have your ruby slippers on the correct feet, but in practice most people are launching from IDEs. That makes

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm sorry, what problems do you really have with the CLI for building/deploying? I have none nor see any issues that require slippers. ;) When I train people about Cordova based dev I always teach them the CLI and to use a text editor. Most are using Sublime (not Xcode) and many are rolling into a

Re: Moving www/config.xml -> config.xml (within CLI)

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
1) Wouldn't it make more sense to default to the root config.xml if both are present? If you create a new project and import an old www project using a new CLI (--source or --link), you would get both configuration files (one at the root created by the template, and one inside your imported www).

Re: Moving www/config.xml -> config.xml (within CLI)

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
1) Good point. Makes sense to me. 2) I think this is a tougher call. In on context, it does make more sense as "app.xml", since "config.xml" is the thing you're generating as an output. OTOH, there are a lot of tutorials & blog posts that say "put FOO in your config.xml", and so renaming it would

Re: Moving .cordova/config.json -> cordova.json

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
If we don't add a config.json by default, we need a new strategy for looking up paths for the root. I don't like naming the top-level config "config.xml", but after some thoughts on it, I don't think we should rename it just right now. There are a lot of changes that would need to go along with t

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I'm glad to hear people are having success with IDE-less workflows. I'm a vim guy through and through, and wish I didn't have to waste disk space or memory on Xcode or Eclipse. I need them for native debugging, I suppose. I have had a patchy history of trying to deploy to simulators and devices us

Re: Moving .cordova/config.json -> cordova.json

2014-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
ya agreed, we should aim to do something early Feb once everyone is back into the the flow On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: > If we don't add a config.json by default, we need a new strategy for > looking up paths for the root. > > I don't like naming the top-level config "c

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
We've quibbled over this before. Regardless of your preference or philosophy, at least some users are choosing/expecting to use IDE's and then complaining about it. I'm all for removing the barriers to all-CLI all the time (I'm also a "vim guy"), but these changes significantly appease confusion

Re: Moving www/config.xml -> config.xml (within CLI)

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
After discussing this and reading the other thread (on config.json movement), I agree this is not the time for the rename. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > 1) Good point. Makes sense to me. > > 2) I think this is a tougher call. In on context, it does make more sense > as

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Bowser
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > I have had a patchy history of trying to deploy to simulators and devices > using the CLI commands, but it may be something about my setup (eg. my HTC > One frequently drops out of the ADB devices list even though it's still > plugged in

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
(More OT: I've gone through my fourth damaged microUSB cable on this last road trip. They bend so easily in the car.) On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Joe Bowser wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Braden Shepherdson > wrote: > > I have had a patchy history of trying to deploy to simulat

Introductory Developer Email

2014-01-06 Thread Josh Bavari
Hello fellow Cordova Devs, I have been using PhoneGap / Cordova for about the last few years and love that the project is ever evolving. I would like to help contribute to the Cordova project as well to help give back some of what was freely given to myself. Some of my hobbies include mobile deve

Re: Introductory Developer Email

2014-01-06 Thread Anis KADRI
Welcome Josh! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Josh Bavari wrote: > Hello fellow Cordova Devs, > > I have been using PhoneGap / Cordova for about the last few years and love > that the project is ever evolving. I would like to help contribute to the > Cordova project as well to help give back so

Re: Introductory Developer Email

2014-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
Right on, welcome to the fray Josh. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > Welcome Josh! > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Josh Bavari wrote: > > > Hello fellow Cordova Devs, > > > > I have been using PhoneGap / Cordova for about the last few years and > love > > that the proj

Re: Plugin Version Control Workflow

2014-01-06 Thread Andrey Kurdumov
About plugin and platform version control. I heard a lot about that, and confused why you think that everybody would like to remove ./plugins and ./platforms folders from source control. I do agree that this is most likely the case for the simple applications and for the maybe 99% of current Cordov

Re: Plugin Version Control Workflow

2014-01-06 Thread Dan Moore
Hi Andrey, I have worked on two small, simple Cordova applications, but we still at times had to modify platform specific code.  Not much, but some (AppDelegate.m for the iOS app, and the DroidGap subclass for Android--this is a 2.9.x project for now). Here's my solutions to your issues. * if

Camera Usage Causes Memory Warnings

2014-01-06 Thread Brian Zitzow
Hi, I'm hoping to get some help with the camera usage causing memory warnings and an eventual crashing of the application. I've filed a bug with details here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5732

Re: Plugin Version Control Workflow

2014-01-06 Thread Ross Gerbasi
Hey Andrey, Much like you said 99% of the users will want to ignore platforms and plugins from version control. Making this work properly would not stop someone from including them if they wanted to. If your workflow is better including those folders you would have no problem doing so. Ideally th

Re: Introductory Developer Email

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Grieve
Awesome! Welcome to the team! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > Right on, welcome to the fray Josh. > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > > > Welcome Josh! > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Josh Bavari wrote: > > > > > Hello fellow Cordova Dev