Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-07 Thread Alessandro Aprile
my two cents: i've tried a lot of times to switch completely to a all-CLI build system, and even if this is technically natural, everytime i'll fall back to a mixed environement based on two eclipse project ([prjname]-javascript - www for editing and [prjname] - platforms/android/asset/www for CLI

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-07 Thread Kerri Shotts
[ Even more OT: definitely check the cable. My Nexus 7 does the same thing. After trying many different cables, I finally found one that let it stay connected as long as I wanted. The cables themselves work on other non-android devices, so they aren't bad, but must not be able to meet the N7's

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Braden Shepherdson
The unfortunate part is that Eclipse and Xcode are also (more or less) the build systems for iOS and Android. You can build from CLI, and even deploy from the CLI if the stars align and you have your ruby slippers on the correct feet, but in practice most people are launching from IDEs. That makes

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm sorry, what problems do you really have with the CLI for building/deploying? I have none nor see any issues that require slippers. ;) When I train people about Cordova based dev I always teach them the CLI and to use a text editor. Most are using Sublime (not Xcode) and many are rolling into

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I'm glad to hear people are having success with IDE-less workflows. I'm a vim guy through and through, and wish I didn't have to waste disk space or memory on Xcode or Eclipse. I need them for native debugging, I suppose. I have had a patchy history of trying to deploy to simulators and devices

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
We've quibbled over this before. Regardless of your preference or philosophy, at least some users are choosing/expecting to use IDE's and then complaining about it. I'm all for removing the barriers to all-CLI all the time (I'm also a vim guy), but these changes significantly appease confusion

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Bowser
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote: I have had a patchy history of trying to deploy to simulators and devices using the CLI commands, but it may be something about my setup (eg. my HTC One frequently drops out of the ADB devices list even though it's

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-06 Thread Michal Mocny
(More OT: I've gone through my fourth damaged microUSB cable on this last road trip. They bend so easily in the car.) On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote: I have had a patchy

IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-02 Thread Andrew Grieve
We've had a bunch of users confused by Xcode and Eclipse showing only the output www/ and not the www/ that they are supposed to edit. There's bugs tracking addressing this for: iOS: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5397 Android: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5715 I've now

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
idk, if ppl want to use the cli I would reccomend using a text editor and our build chain if they want to use IDE's then they should not use the cli and just use the project scripts (at least, this was the intent of the design as I originally saw it) not sure I see much benefit to making the

Re: IDE tweaks for CLI

2014-01-02 Thread Tommy Williams
I'm with you, Brian... CLI for CLI, project scripts for IDEs. Anything else will just lead to madness.. On 03/01/2014 12:21 pm, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: idk, if ppl want to use the cli I would reccomend using a text editor and our build chain if they want to use IDE's then they