Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-09-04 Thread Carlos Santana
f it's part of the packaging > mechanism on the platform). > > -Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Brian LeRoux > Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:59 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.or

RE: remotely loaded pages

2014-09-03 Thread Chuck Lantz
brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:59 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: remotely loaded pages yea, agreed, tho I think Service Worker will be the spec we track/implement if necessary On Wed, Sep 3, 2014

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-09-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
l.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Brian LeRoux > Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:35 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: remotely loaded pages > > there is no appcache in webview based apps…unless we implement it as a > plugin (which we won'

RE: remotely loaded pages

2014-09-03 Thread Chuck Lantz
this is of interest in enterprise scenarios at a minimum. -Chuck -Original Message- From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:35 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: remotely loaded pages there is no a

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-09-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
p > content - iOS maxes out at 10mb I think. > > -Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Brian LeRoux > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:15 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: remote

RE: remotely loaded pages

2014-09-03 Thread Chuck Lantz
PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: remotely loaded pages No apologies! It definitely *is* for dev authoring workflow currently …but given the #'s I think it could be suitable for production runtime. (Sorry I wasn't clear on that.) On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tim Kim wrote: >

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
No apologies! It definitely *is* for dev authoring workflow currently …but given the #'s I think it could be suitable for production runtime. (Sorry I wasn't clear on that.) On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tim Kim wrote: > > > > I wonder how it solves the problems of serving the > > correct v

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-21 Thread Tim Kim
> > I wonder how it solves the problems of serving the > correct version of cordova.js and cordova_plugin.js depending on the > version of the native code that is installed on the different versions of > the mobile App in production. When you connect to the IP that's being served by connect-phone

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-21 Thread Carlos Santana
Sorry Brian, I thought it was a development time tool to allow for fast development cycle associated with PhoneGap Developer App. I guess they can use it and run the connect-phonegap in a production node-js backend system, I wonder how it solves the problems of serving the correct version of cordo

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
totally, though connect-phonegap *could* be considered production worthy (it is being used significantly by the pg downstream community) On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Carlos Santana wrote: > Brain I think that's OK at development time everything is fair game :-) > > The problem is developer

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-21 Thread Carlos Santana
Brain I think that's OK at development time everything is fair game :-) The problem is developers doing stupid things like loading a cordova.js from a place they don't know for a in production app being used by end users, that's just kamikaze That's OK if they want to shoot themselves in the foot

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
phonegap-connect serves up remote cordova.js (negotiates the requestor to send the right file) no deaths yet! https://github.com/phonegap/connect-phonegap/blob/master/lib/middleware/cordova/cordova.js#L29 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Ally Ogilvie wrote: > That's a good difference to point

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-20 Thread Ally Ogilvie
That's a good difference to point out. >My personal position is that scenarios where developer is in control and >loaded locally (i.e. directupdate, appmobi, spellcaster) is a valid >scenario for Cordova I agree, because as cordova.js and cordovaLib are version linked, it makes sense that once an

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-20 Thread Carlos Santana
I want to make clarification there is a notable difference between loading a remotely-loaded *(non-local) *HTML pages with Cordova vs. a downloaded webapp to be loaded from a *local* HTML. IBM Worklight has a feature "Direct update" http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/api/content/SSZH4A_

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-20 Thread Brian LeRoux
Very much so. So much so, I think we should even consider such functionality as 'core'. Could dovetail w/ Serviceworker. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > I think this is a very desired plugin that many end up re-writing, and it's > far better than setting the content src

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-20 Thread Andrew Grieve
I think this is a very desired plugin that many end up re-writing, and it's far better than setting the content src directly to a remote URL. E.g. just stumbled across this yesterday: http://docs.appmobi.com/index.php/live-update/ On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: > Make it

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-20 Thread Michal Mocny
Make it available Ally, of course that sounds interesting! I'm sure a few of us have suggestions for improvements too. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Ally Ogilvie wrote: > Marcel, Sorry for the late reply. > > For some games that I produce where the entire game is served to the client > (req

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-19 Thread Ally Ogilvie
Marcel, Sorry for the late reply. For some games that I produce where the entire game is served to the client (requires no .html in the application) we have a tool called "spellcaster". Spellcaster handles internet connectivity, localisation and Cordova code injection. It works as follows: One si

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread purplecabbage
It is great design for development, and netflix. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Marc Weiner wrote: > > It's technically possible, and even (arguably) legal according to Apple's > documentation, depending on the nature of the code and how it's implemented: > > 3.3.2 An Appli

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Marc Weiner
It's technically possible, and even (arguably) legal according to Apple's documentation, depending on the nature of the code and how it's implemented: 3.3.2 An Application may not download or install executable code. Interpreted code may only be used in an Application if all scripts, code and inte

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Victor Sosa
Hi Frederico. While what you are saying about the policies stores is true, this applies to public stores only (as far as I can tell). For on-premise app stores this might be false because each store owner need to set and apply the governance for the apps. It could end on horrible results due to a

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Shazron
Adobe PhoneGap Build Hydration is different however -- it downloads an app payload that is run locally (points to the new www folder contents), and is only meant for dev purposes, not for App Store release. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Frederico Galvão wrote: > I don't have the details in hand

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Frederico Galvão
I don't have the details in hand at the moment, but I remember seeing in more than one application store last year policies being changed to disallow remote code to run in an application on-demand. Such rules *could* as well be applied to Cordova apps that load remote content considered as code (HT

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread purplecabbage
I agree with all your statements Marcel. I use this approach frequently in dev for fast turnaround. Ultimately App Store policies decide what can and cannot be done. Regarding security, there is nothing I can do with a remote page that I can't already do inside my app. It's an issue of trust.

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Shazron
I agree that it is not recommended, but it's possible. I delved into this question here: https://github.com/shazron/phonegap-questions/issues/37 The PhoneGap Developer App is an example of how this is working at http://app.phonegap.com but they do some proxying to get around the CORS limitations I

Re: remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Victor Sosa
Hello Marcel. Interesting scenario here. I'm not an expert on this topic, but loading remote web artifacts that have native access looks very insecure to me. Whether it is possible? Yeah, maybe... But is it advisable and, more important, recommended by the Cordova experts community? I'd like to sa

remotely loaded pages

2014-08-01 Thread Marcel Kinard
I've been getting occasional questions about users trying to use remotely-loaded (non-local) HTML pages with Cordova (in the webview, not InAppBrowser), and still expecting to have access to the plugin APIs (camera is a popular one). My response so far is: "This is an unsupported configuration,