Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-02 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Personally, while I think Justin is more than capable to be the chair, things are running smooth right now and we do have some momentum behind us. No need to change things right now so long Alex wishes to remain the PMC Chair. -Nick On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-02 Thread Jun Heider
On Dec 1, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Doug McCune wrote: > My personal opinion is that you guys should swap and give Justin (or > someone else who's interested) the opportunity for a year. One thing the > project needs is good bench strength if anything were to happen that would > limit someone's involvem

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I also think that self-nomination may be an issue as well. I'm not sure how I > want to respond to thAt part. I did ask if any anyone else was interested in the role. This discussion is trying to find out if there is any consensus for change. As per our (newish) guidelines [1] it's firs

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > If there are only a few, should we change less > often, or just keep cycling through those few, or is that, once you've had > your turn, you can't return to the role? I see no issue in returning to the role, you you did a good job no reason you cant again - of course you need to be voted in

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Doug McCune
My personal opinion is that you guys should swap and give Justin (or someone else who's interested) the opportunity for a year. One thing the project needs is good bench strength if anything were to happen that would limit someone's involvement. I'd be concerned with the prospect of Adobe pulling f

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Exactly it is a time for friends and family here in the US. I also think that self-nomination may be an issue as well. I'm not sure how I want to respond to thAt part. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:45 AM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > > I don't care myself. My impression

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/1/13 6:28 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >> "There's the additional rationale keeping Alex in the position as I >>think >> it would be less likely for folks at Adobe to assign him to some >>non-Flex >> position if he's the Flex PMC chair." > >I'd be concerned if we thought that Alex ne

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > "There's the additional rationale keeping Alex in the position as I think > it would be less likely for folks at Adobe to assign him to some non-Flex > position if he's the Flex PMC chair." I'd be concerned if we thought that Alex needed to be the chair for Adobe's continual involvement in

AW: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread christofer.d...@c-ware.de
I see it exactly the same way (Except for the thing with the letters and the number) ;-) Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Avi Kessner [mailto:akess...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2013 12:52 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair I didn&#

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Avi Kessner
I didn't care, and thought the rational to give more people the experience is a good one. However, the logic in following argument might be sound and a bit scary. "There's the additional rationale keeping Alex in the position as I think it would be less likely for folks at Adobe to assign him to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-12-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
I don't care myself. My impression is that many of the folks on this list are US based; and you started the conversation at the start of a major US Holiday [Thanksgiving]. That may have contributed to the lack of a response. I, myself, have been running non-stop for 6 days [and I have two

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Not exactly a huge response of this so I'd assume most people don't care one way or another. Anyone else have something to say? Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I was under the impression I was only a committer. I think the the team page > is a mistake. Sorry you're right it seems that it s in error. I had thought for some reason you were on the initial list of committers and thus become a PMC when the project become a TLP. Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Harbs
I was under the impression I was only a committer. I think the the team page is a mistake. Harbs On Nov 29, 2013, at 4:55 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> I was speaking about Harbs, because he said we was committer only, and the >> Team page shows he is P+C. > He's a PMC member so could b

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I was speaking about Harbs, because he said we was committer only, and the > Team page shows he is P+C. He's a PMC member so could be voted in as chair. I think a few of people don't realise that they are PMC members as they were not directly vote in like more recent PMC members. As per

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Maurice Amsellem
g the same ? Not a big deal anyway... Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] Envoyé : vendredi 29 novembre 2013 00:50 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair Hi, > FYI, you appear as C+P on the Apache Flex Tea

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > FYI, you appear as C+P on the Apache Flex Team page. All of the initial committers were made PMC as well, so it only people who have been voted in since that time may be "only" committers. 3 or 4 (I think of top o f my head) have been voted in as PMC. With the recent guidelines been voted

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Kessler
Well if you want a turn and it gets voted on. I'll agree to fairness is change. -Mark -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Flex-chair-tp32664p32722.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, As I said in my original email I think Alex has done/is doing an excellent job. One other reason may consider changing the chair is r educed risk to the project. Having people take on different roles means that there is less risk if someone who has always done that role suddenly leaves the

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Maurice Amsellem
essure on you ;-) Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Envoyé : jeudi 28 novembre 2013 15:29 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair I think Justin has been doing an excellent job getting out releases, but at the same time,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Kessler
IMO I'm accepting of Alex to remain as long as he wishes as he is doing a fine job. The chair has additional duties such as doing quarterly reports, board meeting minute reviews, new pmc member changes / coordination, and such. However the decisions made for the Apache Flex project are voted on b

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Harbs
I think Justin has been doing an excellent job getting out releases, but at the same time, Alex has been doing an excellent job as Chair. I'm from the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. So, I'd vote to keep Alex as Chair. There's the additional rationale keeping Alex in the position as I t

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-28 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 28/11/2013 06:52, Erik de Bruin wrote: Unless Alex resigns, of course, my vote would go to "never change a winning team," and I really think we're winning. Me too. I think Justin is doing a great job getting the releases out though. Tom

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-27 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
+1 to Justin taking over. -1 to Alex resigning. I guess I am torn. My vote is 0. Thanks, Om On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Unless Alex resigns, of course, my vote would go to "never change a > winning team," and I really think we're winning. > > EdB > > > > On Thu,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Unless Alex resigns, of course, my vote would go to "never change a winning team," and I really think we're winning. EdB On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > It's coming up on a year of Alex being the Flex PMC chair, as per our > recently voted in guidelines [1] it

[DISCUSS] Apache Flex chair

2013-11-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, It's coming up on a year of Alex being the Flex PMC chair, as per our recently voted in guidelines [1] it's time to review that. I think Alex done an excellent job and I know he'd happy to continue in the role, but I'd like to see it change so other people get the chance to experience th