Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-05 Thread Andy Piper
At 10:39 PM 5/4/2006, David Blevins wrote: stateless for EJB, so there is nothing to cluster anyway. But for IIOP, would we simply not offer clustering to people using CORBA to interop with clients in other languages or on other platforms? Some ORBs support multiple profiles for clustering (Bo

Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-05 Thread Andy Piper
The weblogic thin-client works this way - clustering is built into the client using portable interceptors and the JDK ORB. andy At 04:37 AM 5/5/2006, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: David Blevins wrote: On May 4, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Sort of. Both

Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-04 Thread David Blevins
On May 4, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: David Blevins wrote: The goal of those protocols is to interop in a language agnostic fashion. WS are all stateless for EJB, so there is nothing to cluster anyway. stateless calls are still clustered - the load-balancing and failover

Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-04 Thread David Blevins
On May 4, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: David Blevins wrote: On May 4, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Sort of. Both your explanations involve smartening the java clients on the other end of WS or CORBA to play nice. ?? smart java s

Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-04 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
Jules Gosnell wrote: David Blevins wrote: On May 4, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Sort of. Both your explanations involve smartening the java clients on the other end of WS or CORBA to play nice. ?? smart java stubs for RMI over OpenEJB-protocol (what is it called?) or II

Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-04 Thread Jules Gosnell
David Blevins wrote: On May 4, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: David Blevins wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: I'd like to kick off a thread about the monitoring of clustered deployments... There is a section in the 1,000ft Clustering Overview (http://

Re: Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-04 Thread David Blevins
On May 4, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: David Blevins wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: I'd like to kick off a thread about the monitoring of clustered deployments... There is a section in the 1,000ft Clustering Overview (http:// opensource.atlassian.co

Was: Clustering: Monitoring... - Now: Clustering: OpenEJB...

2006-05-04 Thread Jules Gosnell
David Blevins wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: I'd like to kick off a thread about the monitoring of clustered deployments... There is a section in the 1,000ft Clustering Overview (http:// opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/ Clustering), but li

Re: Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread James Strachan
On 5/3/06, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: its a neat solution, I like it.one would still need to build the "aggregate" view, so that summariesetc can be reported on,Agreed. FWIW Lingo does this too right now - though I'm sure we might want to get more clever in how the aggregati

Re: Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread David Blevins
On May 3, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: I'd like to kick off a thread about the monitoring of clustered deployments... There is a section in the 1,000ft Clustering Overview (http:// opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/ Clustering), but little content, due to th

Re: Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
its a neat solution, I like it. one would still need to build the "aggregate" view, so that summaries etc can be reported on, otherwise you only view a server at a time, which can be achieved by just connecting to the server itself. by aggregate I mean the sum of the nodes in the cluster, for

Re: Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread James Strachan
BTW I'm not necessarily saying that the Lingo JMX connector is *the* solution, just *a* solution - but I think the general approach of using distributed JMX connectors seems like a good, standards based approach to monitoring and controlling clusters of POJOs. Then folks can choose the JMX connecto

Re: Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread Jules Gosnell
James Strachan wrote: Distributed JMX sounds like a simple way to monitor a cluster of any Java stuff. Details on using clustered JMX over JMS here... http://lingo.codehaus.org/JMX+over+JMS which lets you monitor the cluster in a single MBeanServer cool - sounds like exactly the sort of thin

Re: Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread James Strachan
Distributed JMX sounds like a simple way to monitor a cluster of any Java stuff. Details on using clustered JMX over JMS here... http://lingo.codehaus.org/JMX+over+JMS which lets you monitor the cluster in a single MBeanServer On 5/3/06, Jules Gosnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to ki

Clustering: Monitoring...

2006-05-03 Thread Jules Gosnell
I'd like to kick off a thread about the monitoring of clustered deployments... There is a section in the 1,000ft Clustering Overview (http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Clustering), but little content, due to the fact that there has been little discussion about th