shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread Sangjin Lee
My apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the thinking on the shared lib on Geronimo 3.0? As Geronimo moves to the OSGi based infrastructure, will it make it into G 3.0? If so, how would it be exposed in terms of classloading? Thanks... Sangjin

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread David Jencks
On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Sangjin Lee wrote: My apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the thinking on the shared lib on Geronimo 3.0? As Geronimo moves to the OSGi based infrastructure, will it make it into G 3.0? If so, how would it be exposed in terms

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread Sangjin Lee
, David Jencks david_jen...@yahoo.comwrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Sangjin Lee wrote: My apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the thinking on the shared lib on Geronimo 3.0? As Geronimo moves to the OSGi based infrastructure, will it make it into G 3.0? If so, how

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread David Jencks
: On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Sangjin Lee wrote: My apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the thinking on the shared lib on Geronimo 3.0? As Geronimo moves to the OSGi based infrastructure, will it make it into G 3.0? If so, how would it be exposed in terms

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread Kevan Miller
On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:57 PM, David Jencks wrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Sangjin Lee wrote: Thanks. So it sounds like it will be pretty much a *requirement* that applications on 3.0 need to be fully OSGi bundles, Well, the idea is that the geronimo deployment process will turn

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread David Jencks
On Mar 24, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:57 PM, David Jencks wrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Sangjin Lee wrote: Thanks. So it sounds like it will be pretty much a *requirement* that applications on 3.0 need to be fully OSGi bundles, Well, the

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread Sangjin Lee
I wholeheartedly agree that if you're going to be in the OSGi runtime the shared lib approach doesn't make sense. You would be denying yourself all the benefits that OSGi brings in terms of classloading and flexibility. I just wanted to be clear that at a high level in 3.0 OSGi is not only a

Re: shared lib in Geronimo 3.0

2010-03-24 Thread Kevan Miller
On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:30 PM, David Jencks wrote: While I always thought shared lib was a bad idea, at least pre-osgi the concept of a classloader that you could just toss things in made sense. I don't think it makes any sense in osgi. There is no dynamic-export header so whatever