Re: Decisionmaking [was: Re: New HBase Logo]

2011-09-02 Thread Eric Charles
Hi, For upcoming Apache James 3.0, we have a call for a new logo at http://james.apache.org/#logo We already have a few proposals, and the call is still ongoing. We will open the vote to everyone when james 3.0-final will be released, but I expect some discussions on the choice, and maybe

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[DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Stack
See here for the incubator proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AccumuloProposal Reactions probably better belong over on the incubator mailing list but I thought a discussion here first might be useful developing a stance. Initial reaction, not having seen the code, is that it seems to be

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Meil
They apparently have a very strong relationship with HBase...;-) Apache Brand Our interest in releasing this code as an Apache incubator project is due to its strong relationship with other Apache projects, i.e. Hadoop, Zookeeper, and HBase. It's disappointing that these guys watched

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Gary Helmling
Some comments on the proposal and differentiation vs HBase: Access Labels: The proposal claims that this is unlikely to be adopted [in HBase]. This is completely untrue. This has been discussed many times in the past in relation to our security implementation. It's just been deferred at the

HBASE-3842: RegionObserver compaction API changes

2011-09-02 Thread Gary Helmling
I plan to commit the patch for refactoring RegionObserver coprocessor hooks at the end of day today: https://reviews.apache.org/r/1686/ If anyone wants to comment, please do so before then. (Nicolas, I'm looking at you!) --gh

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Joey Echeverria
To add to what Todd said, I actually worked with those guys for the last 3 years and have used Accumulo in production. It's true that it would have been better if they had been able to contribute to HBase rather than go on their own, but it's not easy to contribute to open source, either

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Joey Echeverria
It's not really easier, they've been working on getting this released for 2.5 years or more. What I think will make it easier is having more of a precedence. In the government, it's always easier to say no than yes. Showing that it can be done and done successfully will push them to develop a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Gary Helmling
I've been in touch with this team for the last 18 months or so. They're good people, smart, and have a healthy respect for HBase and our team. Though they haven't contributed code or participated on the lists, I can vouch that they do follow our development and generally do understand HBase

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Friday, September 2, 2011, Gary Helmling ghelml...@gmail.com wrote: Claims a relationship with HBase. Is there overlapping code or is this just the duplication of functionality? There's no community relationship that I'm aware of. I haven't seen any of the proposed committers on the

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Mathias Herberts
Maybe a BOF at Hadoop World could clarify some things, provided some of those folks attend the conference. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 22:01, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday, September 2, 2011, Gary Helmling ghelml...@gmail.com wrote: Claims a relationship with

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Meil
Just for conversation, if somebody approached ASF incubator with an idea for a framework called ExtendedSleep that claimed to be a Java relational-object mapping framework (instead of the crusty object-relational approach that the Hibernate mapping framework provides), would anybody take it

region transition trace

2011-09-02 Thread Ma, Ming
Perhaps this feature was discussed before. we currently don't have the full transition history of all regions { fromState, ToState, the machine that initiates it }; the states will be removed from zookeeper /hbase/unassigned once the region is assigned; also .META. table has max version of 10

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
I think there is precedence for competing and/or duplicate Apache projects, Avro/Thrift and HBase/Cassandra come to mind.   That argument isn't helping you make your case. Best regards,    - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
I'm simply pointing out a lack of community involvement to date. I would only add to this that the incubation proposal makes a controversial statement regarding existing involvement with the HBase community. It may be technically true if a certain company with involvement in HBase has also

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal

2011-09-02 Thread Stack
I'm pissed off my tax dollars were being used to duplicate the effort we expend each day up here in hbaselandia! Some one of us needs to bottle some of the above as a response over in incubator. My thought is that we'd be doing all involved a service getting them to tighten up the proposal. I'd

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