time for a new A-T release?

2004-02-20 Thread Stas Bekman
I'd like to get a new A-T out of the door. There were a *lot* of tweaks and new features added since the last release. It'd be nice to see whether users are happy with them, before we get a new mp2 release out. __ Stas Bekman

Re: time for a new A-T release?

2004-02-20 Thread Randy Kobes
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Stas Bekman wrote: I'd like to get a new A-T out of the door. There were a *lot* of tweaks and new features added since the last release. It'd be nice to see whether users are happy with them, before we get a new mp2 release out. Hi Stas, Regarding that patch we just

Re: time for a new A-T release?

2004-02-20 Thread Stas Bekman
Randy Kobes wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Stas Bekman wrote: I'd like to get a new A-T out of the door. There were a *lot* of tweaks and new features added since the last release. It'd be nice to see whether users are happy with them, before we get a new mp2 release out. Hi Stas, Regarding that

passing -D values?

2004-02-20 Thread Geoffrey Young
is there really no way to pass additional -D switches to the server? I can't see any, so unless I'm missing it... --Geoff Index: lib/Apache/TestConfig.pm === RCS file:

Re: time for a new A-T release?

2004-02-20 Thread Geoffrey Young
Stas Bekman wrote: I'd like to get a new A-T out of the door. There were a *lot* of tweaks and new features added since the last release. It'd be nice to see whether users are happy with them, before we get a new mp2 release out. sounds like a plan. --Geoff

Re: passing -D values?

2004-02-20 Thread Geoffrey Young
$vars-{proxyssl_url} ||= ''; +$self-{defines} ||= ''; oops, make that $vars :) --Geoff

Re: passing -D values?

2004-02-20 Thread Joe Orton
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:30:03PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote: is there really no way to pass additional -D switches to the server? I can't see any, so unless I'm missing it... Ooh, cool, I tried to add that feature earlier in the week too (and didn't come up with a patch as simple as yours

Re: passing -D values?

2004-02-20 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Orton wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:30:03PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote: is there really no way to pass additional -D switches to the server? I can't see any, so unless I'm missing it... Ooh, cool, I tried to add that feature earlier in the week too (and didn't come up with a

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Joe Orton
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 05:55:13PM -0800, Roy T. Fielding wrote: However I completely disagree that Python (or Perl or PHP) is a good choice for use in build systems. As part of the configure process, I would agree with you, but as part of buildconf, I disagree--not everyone needs

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Querna
httpd is still just as buildable on such platforms regardless of gen-build.py: from the release tarballs. Building from a CVS checkout cannot be done without extra tools, but that has always been true in 2.0: you need libtool and autoconf (not to mention the CVS client). Hell, autoconf

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sascha Schumann
A shell script generating build-exports.mk is attached. The implementation lacks cyclic reference detection (some header files point to each other). This can be resolved by splitting the 2-3 header files though. - Sascha gen-build.sh Description: Bourne shell script

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sascha Schumann
Please get your facts straight. httpd is still just as buildable on such platforms regardless of gen-build.py: from the release tarballs. Building from a CVS checkout cannot be done without extra tools, but that has always been true in 2.0: you need libtool and autoconf (not to

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Joe Orton
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 11:27:29AM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: Please get your facts straight. httpd is still just as buildable on such platforms regardless of gen-build.py: from the release tarballs. Building from a CVS checkout cannot be done without extra tools, but that has

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sascha Schumann
autoconf does not use perl. It has done since 2.50 AFAIK: from the README in 2.59: Fortunately, one can choose not to use the horrible autoconf 2.5x. The sane versions up to 2.13 don't require perl for buildconf'ing APR or httpd. - Sascha

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Patrick Welche
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 11:23:02AM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: A shell script generating build-exports.mk is attached. The implementation lacks cyclic reference detection (some header files point to each other). This can be resolved by splitting the 2-3 header files

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Bill Stoddard
Roy T. Fielding wrote: However I completely disagree that Python (or Perl or PHP) is a good choice for use in build systems. As part of the configure process, I would agree with you, but as part of buildconf, I disagree--not everyone needs to run buildconf--only developers, and if

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Patrick Welche wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 11:23:02AM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: A shell script generating build-exports.mk is attached. The implementation lacks cyclic reference detection (some header files point to each other). This can be

Re: Time for 1.3.30??

2004-02-20 Thread gregames
Ben Laurie wrote: Jeff Trawick wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: I'd like to float the idea of releasing 1.3.30 soonish. one question: who would support putting the 1.3 versions of mod_backtrace and mod_whatkilledus in experimental? +1. +1 Greg

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 02:17:32AM -0700, Paul Querna wrote: httpd is still just as buildable on such platforms regardless of gen-build.py: from the release tarballs. Building from a CVS checkout cannot be done without extra tools, but that has always been true in 2.0: you need libtool

RE: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sander Striker
From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 6:00 PM And the notion of well, now it doesn't build on my platform is quite suspect. The output of the process (run at buildconf time) is build-outputs.mk. Just copy that from *anywhere* to your target platform. We

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Laurie
Roy T. Fielding wrote: However I completely disagree that Python (or Perl or PHP) is a good choice for use in build systems. As part of the configure process, I would agree with you, but as part of buildconf, I disagree--not everyone needs to run buildconf--only developers, and if you're

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:10:06PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: Ben Laurie wrote: Or even platforms you have heard of: within hours of this change I had complaints from people who couldn't build snapshots in order to try out mod_log_forensic... I hate to chime in here, but I must

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 06:12:07PM +0100, Sander Striker wrote: From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 6:00 PM And the notion of well, now it doesn't build on my platform is quite suspect. The output of the process (run at buildconf time) is

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Brad Nicholes
I am still confused as to what this all means. What do you all mean by Platform. I keep reading these email messages and it sounds like Platform == Linux. NetWare doesn't use buildconf but yet we still have to generate the files. We also don't build directly on the NetWare platform, we

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
Greg Stein wrote: I hate to chime in here, but I must agree. Things have certainly come a long way when the build/configure system tried to be as LCD (lowest common denominator) as possible. And it was a recursive make solution which we're trying to fix. If you can come up with an LCD

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sander Striker
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 19:59, Jim Jagielski wrote: Greg Stein wrote: I hate to chime in here, but I must agree. Things have certainly come a long way when the build/configure system tried to be as LCD (lowest common denominator) as possible. And it was a recursive make solution

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 11:50:55AM -0700, Brad Nicholes wrote: I am still confused as to what this all means. What do you all mean by Platform. I keep reading these email messages and it sounds like Platform == Linux. The Platform will be NetWare. The gen-build script should be able to

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Sander Striker
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 19:50, Brad Nicholes wrote: I am still confused as to what this all means. What do you all mean by Platform. I keep reading these email messages and it sounds like Platform == Linux. NetWare doesn't use buildconf but yet we still have to generate the files. We also

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:59:28PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: ... No, I have no solutions, nor did I mean to imply that: o Such a solution is trivial o That the solution used was done with no thought of impact to developers. Well, thought *was* applied, but to be honest, I/we

Re: interface of the 2.1 authentication framework / behaviour of mod_digest/mod_basic

2004-02-20 Thread Patrick Welche
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 06:28:34PM +0100, Axel Grossklaus wrote: i am currently working on mod_authn_dbi (part of the 2.1 Authentication Project http://mod-auth.sourceforge.net/) which uses the new authentication framework of apache 2.1. and was wondering if it was still possible to suggest

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Brad Nicholes
The way I suspect Greg is heading is that you get a ./gen-build.py netware, which can be run on any platform to produce the things you need to do the Netware build. So this should be an improvement, since you don't have to move files, build a tool, move it back, then build. OK, now I understand

Re: apr/apr-util python dependence

2004-02-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:12:59PM -0700, Brad Nicholes wrote: The way I suspect Greg is heading is that you get a ./gen-build.py netware, which can be run on any platform to produce the things you need to do the Netware build. So this should be an improvement, since you don't have to move

Re: interface of the 2.1 authentication framework / behaviour of mod_digest/mod_basic

2004-02-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Friday, February 20, 2004 8:09 PM + Patrick Welche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an off-the-cuff remark: How does this tie in with say SASL (old page at: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/) ? (vision of mod_sasl, then plug in any old authentication method into that) SASL is more generic than