Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-02-01 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 2/1/22 1:23 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:10 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >> >> BTW: Backporting r1897460 and r1897472 for child.c of the Windows MPM needs >> some close look as a number of changes >> to child.c in trunk have not been backported yet: > > The gap is too bi

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-02-01 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 2/1/22 12:53 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 12:57 PM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >> >> On 1/31/22 10:10 AM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: >>> >>> Are we now finished with improving the PCRE2 capabilities with regards to >>> allocation / performance? >>> >>> I see the following revisions

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-31 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:10 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > BTW: Backporting r1897460 and r1897472 for child.c of the Windows MPM needs > some close look as a number of changes > to child.c in trunk have not been backported yet: The gap is too big (for me) between the winnt MPMs on trunk and 2.4.

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-31 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 12:57 PM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > On 1/31/22 10:10 AM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > > Are we now finished with improving the PCRE2 capabilities with regards to > > allocation / performance? > > > > I see the following revisions that would need to be backported on top of >

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-31 Thread Eric Covener
> makes sense as well (Add compiled and loaded PCRE version numbers to "httpd > -V" output and to mod_info page). > > Question is if this should be a separate backport or merged with this > backport. If it is a separate backport, we > have an order dependency between these backports. Based on yo

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-31 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/31/22 10:10 AM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > On 1/13/22 4:28 AM, wr...@apache.org wrote: >> Author: wrowe >> Date: Thu Jan 13 03:28:31 2022 >> New Revision: 1896976 >> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1896976&view=rev >> Log: >> Propose pcre2 support for backport >> >> Modified: >>

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-31 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/13/22 4:28 AM, wr...@apache.org wrote: > Author: wrowe > Date: Thu Jan 13 03:28:31 2022 > New Revision: 1896976 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1896976&view=rev > Log: > Propose pcre2 support for backport > > Modified: > httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS > > Modified: httpd

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-19 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 2:02 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > On 1/18/22 11:03 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:20 PM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > >> > >> On 1/18/22 8:54 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:48 PM William A Rowe Jr > >>> wrote: > > H

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-19 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/18/22 11:03 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:20 PM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >> >> On 1/18/22 8:54 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:48 PM William A Rowe Jr >>> wrote: Hi Joe, Yann and company, please consider this, we will not b

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:20 PM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > On 1/18/22 8:54 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:48 PM William A Rowe Jr > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Joe, Yann and company, > >> > >> please consider this, we will not build against PCRE2 without pcre2-config > >> installe

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-18 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/18/22 8:54 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:48 PM William A Rowe Jr wrote: >> >> Hi Joe, Yann and company, >> >> please consider this, we will not build against PCRE2 without pcre2-config >> installed from a pcre2-dev package. We find PCRE1 with pcre-config and link >> to

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-18 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:48 PM William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > Hi Joe, Yann and company, > > please consider this, we will not build against PCRE2 without pcre2-config > installed from a pcre2-dev package. We find PCRE1 with pcre-config and link > to it, no hassle. My concern is about the defaut, w

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:38 PM Yann Ylavic wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:05 PM Joe Orton wrote: > > > > For 2.4.x I would argue it's better to keep a preference for 8.x over > > 10.x so that users aren't switched from one to the other across an > > upgrade - with some new performance trad

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-18 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/17/22 8:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 09:37 Ruediger Pluem > wrote: > > > > On 1/17/22 4:05 PM, Joe Orton wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> 4 day ago, you all saw this.

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:05 PM Joe Orton wrote: > > For 2.4.x I would argue it's better to keep a preference for 8.x over > 10.x so that users aren't switched from one to the other across an > upgrade - with some new performance trade-off we know about - without > changing the environment/configu

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:26 PM Christophe JAILLET wrote: > > Le 17/01/2022 à 13:27, Ruediger Pluem a écrit : > > > > With regards to the de-optimization / stack usage probably stupid question: > > Can't we use the TLS features that several compilers offer? > > e.g. see at the end of the page at

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Christophe JAILLET
Le 17/01/2022 à 13:27, Ruediger Pluem a écrit : On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library author's wishes for all of us to walk away from the de

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Christophe JAILLET
Le 17/01/2022 à 14:16, Ruediger Pluem a écrit : On 1/17/22 1:38 PM, Eric Covener wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. Don't know what I ca

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 09:37 Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > On 1/17/22 4:05 PM, Joe Orton wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on > trunk. > >> > >> Don't know what I can to do help this

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Ixney on the alloca. That's the entire point of not moving array allocations to the stack, because the author won't take responsibility for potential underflows and overflows. Stack is the wrong place for these bits On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 06:38 Eric Covener wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/17/22 4:05 PM, Joe Orton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: >> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on >> trunk. >> >> Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library >> author's wishes for all of u

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Joe Orton
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. > > Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library > author's wishes for all of us to walk away from the dead fork, and use > the

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread gs-apache-dev
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 02:16:32PM +0100, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > On 1/17/22 1:38 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >>> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all starte

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/17/22 1:38 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: >>> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on >>> trunk. >>> >>> Don't know what I can to do help this along a

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Eric Covener
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > > On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on > > trunk. > > > > Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library > > author's wishes for > >

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. > > Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library > author's wishes for > all of us to walk away from the dead fork, and use the maintained > fork.

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library author's wishes for all of us to walk away from the dead fork, and use the maintained fork. It's whatever it is, I'm out of here and removing the backpor