I've forked Jline:
http://github.com/headius/jline/tree/master
I know the maintainer was friendly to us, but I think we really need to
have more control over a few of these buggy libraries, so we can spin
new releases as needed.
I've never forked an OSS project before. Should we give it a ne
When forking a project, shouldn't you change the name of it? Linux
distributions seem likely to be annoyed if you fork and keep the same
name.
Joe
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter
wrote:
> I've forked Jline:
>
> http://github.com/headius/jline/tree/master
>
> I know the ma
Bah, didn't read the whole email... it's too early... as soon as i
clicked "send" :(
I'd say give it a new name, I doubt they'll hand it over. You might
have more clout, but they wouldn't give me commit access when I asked.
I'm pretty sure they want to remain in control of JLine.
Sorry about th
Maybe you should rename it to jruby-jline or something to indicate how
you intend to fix things to work with JRuby. You're not necessarily
taking over maintenance of jline for any possible consumers, right?
You just want to make it work better for JRuby and will incorporate
the code into JRuby rele
One more thing... I remember talk about a readline-ffi library. I
think development is still waiting on a windows-only ffi bug.
Are there plans to switch to that in the future? Would this fork mean
that JRuby is sticking with JLine?
Just curious
Joe
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Charles Oli
Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
I've forked Jline:
http://github.com/headius/jline/tree/master
After thinking about this a bit more, I guess I actually meant fork in
the "I want a place to commit patches" sense.
If we continue with Jline (and that's a big if) we would need to have a
full rele
Nick Sieger wrote:
Maybe you should rename it to jruby-jline or something to indicate how
you intend to fix things to work with JRuby. You're not necessarily
taking over maintenance of jline for any possible consumers, right?
You just want to make it work better for JRuby and will incorporate
the
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 10:47:01 pm Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> ...
> As Koichiro replied, he's working on an FFI-based readline that will
> probably work better than Jline. The fork on Github will remain for
> people that want or need to build their own with any additional patches,
> and ho
Conrad Meyer wrote:
Keep in mind, GNU readline is GPL. So I think in order to keep JRuby's license
as permissive as it is, you'll need to use editline instead (a non-GPL
readline replacement).
Well, that's certainly something to consider, but of course we wouldn't
actually copy, distribute, o
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 12:00:11 am Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> Conrad Meyer wrote:
> > Keep in mind, GNU readline is GPL. So I think in order to keep JRuby's
> > license as permissive as it is, you'll need to use editline instead (a
> > non-GPL readline replacement).
>
> Well, that's cert
2009/2/18 Conrad Meyer :
> I was under the impression that non-GPL code could not link statically or
> dynamically with GPL libraries, and that this was one of the major differences
> between the GPL and LGPL. This is certainly Stallman's opinion (he cites
That correct, with a small wrinkle. Wher
Wayne Meissner wrote:
That correct, with a small wrinkle. Where there is an ABI compatible
library, which can be used as a complete replacement, and the binary
is dynamically linked, then it could be argued that the code is
intended to link with the ABI compatible library, and not the GPLed
vari
Wayne Meissner wrote:
2009/2/18 Conrad Meyer :
I was under the impression that non-GPL code could not link statically or
dynamically with GPL libraries, and that this was one of the major differences
between the GPL and LGPL. This is certainly Stallman's opinion (he cites
That correct, with a
Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
Wayne Meissner wrote:
That correct, with a small wrinkle. Where there is an ABI compatible
library, which can be used as a complete replacement, and the binary
is dynamically linked, then it could be argued that the code is
intended to link with the ABI compatible l
Now, I'm not challenging Richard Stallman, but postgres is BSD and has
the ability to link to the readline library. They don't distribute it
though. So it depends on the packages that the user has installed.
It seems to prefer editline, but will use readline if available.
http://search.postgresq
In the Java world, its the nature of the linkage that's key. Cast
your mind back to the way we used to load a SAX parser. We used to
set a system property for javax.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilderFactory and
use DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance() in the code.
This allowed your Java to not i
Charles Oliver Nutter schrieb:
Wayne Meissner wrote:
2009/2/18 Conrad Meyer :
I was under the impression that non-GPL code could not link
statically or
dynamically with GPL libraries, and that this was one of the major
differences
between the GPL and LGPL. This is certainly Stallman's opinion
Jochen Theodorou wrote:
in short: better not use readline ;)
It will load if it's present, but we'll work fine if it isn't. And
that's assuming you're using the native binding, possibly installed as a
gem.
Besides that... what are the issue you have with jline that caused you
to fork it? W
2009/2/20 Jochen Theodorou :
> If you distribute your GPL incompatible program without the lib and the user
> is required to install that lib to run your program then GPL nethusiast will
> most probably still say your program has to be under GPL.
>
> To argue that there could exist a ABI compatible
Charles Oliver Nutter schrieb:
Jochen Theodorou wrote:
in short: better not use readline ;)
It will load if it's present, but we'll work fine if it isn't. And
that's assuming you're using the native binding, possibly installed as a
gem.
fair enough
Besides that... what are the issue you h
Jochen Theodorou wrote:
but you see... from me doing a bit research about the activity of this
project I see your bug report from not even 5 days ago and that's it.
Did you talk to the project maintainer, and I do not mean Jason, who has
become another admin of that project for the sake of fixi
Charles Oliver Nutter schrieb:
[...]
I just mean instead of forking that project, maybe the original
founder is no longer really interested in keeping it around and maybe
he wants to give away the whole project.
I think we asked some time ago and were told it was still active.
Granted, I didn
Jochen Theodorou wrote:
well, maybe I should ask more directly... would you be interested in
taking over that project if it is ok with the founder?
I'd be interested in acting as the point man for it if others were
contributing patches and such. So I suppose...yes?
- Charlie
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