LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-22 Thread Tim Perry
Hello, I'd like to help fix LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606. How can I help? To me, the challenge is to ensure log4j is initialized the very first time the ServletContext is provided to any object during application loading and startup and to stop log4j during the very last event or execution hook a

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-25 Thread Tim Perry
to mimic how Spring Framework registers itself in the > ServletContext, though I never got around to doing that, and now I > typically use JVM-global logging configurations instead, so I never > revisited that. > > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:53, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Hell

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-25 Thread Tim Perry
;d be happy to merge! > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 11:51, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Matt, et al., > > > > I agree the deployment patterns you mention are more common and I > wouldn't > > start a new project embedding log4j in each WAR. However, I'

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-25 Thread Tim Perry
forked > repo. > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 12:15, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Matt, > > > > Thanks for clarifying. > > > > I'd be happy to write some tests and submit a PR. How should I submit a > > pull request? I don't think I can do it fro

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-25 Thread Tim Perry
Is it okay to import hamcrest to use in the tests? org.hamcrest hamcrest 2.2 test On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:44 AM Tim Perry wrote: > Thank you, Matt. > > I'll get back to you after I've written some unit tests. > > Tim > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-26 Thread Tim Perry
just try to use > the JUnit 5 API preferably as not everything has been migrated yet! :) > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 15:06, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Is it okay to import hamcrest to use in the tests? > > > > > > org.hamcrest > > hamcrest > >

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-26 Thread Tim Perry
ease-2.x branch is the current stable branch, while master is > the 3.x branch right now. I'd suggest release-2.x since we're still > likely to make at least one (if not more) more 2.x release before 3.0, > though if you make a PR to both branches, that helps :) > > On Tue, 26

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-28 Thread Tim Perry
I submitted pull request 463 for this work. https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/463 Please let me know if there are any issues you would like me to address. Thank you, Tim On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:27 PM Tim Perry wrote: > Okay, I've fully updated the code to use JUnit 5.

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-28 Thread Tim Perry
Matt, Thank you. If all is well, I’ll make the equivalent PR for the master branch. Tim Tim Perry (916) 505-3634 > On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > Great, thanks for the PR! I'll make sure to review this over the weekend. > >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-01-31 Thread Tim Perry
How do I link the commits / pull request to JIRA LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606? >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 13:47, Tim Perry wrote: > >> > >> I submitted pull request 463 for this work. > >> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/463 > >> > >

Re: LOG4J2-2624 and LOG4J2-1606

2021-02-01 Thread Tim Perry
12:59 AM Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:06 PM Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Is it okay to import hamcrest to use in the tests? > > > > > > org.hamcrest > > hamcrest > > 2.2 > > test > > > > Isn'

Re: Putting a ribbon around 2.14.1?

2021-02-03 Thread Tim Perry
Is it possible to merge PR 463 for LOG4J-2624 and LOG4J-1606 for 2.14.1? On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 2:09 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > The LOG4J2-2973 fix is there for both master and release-2.x branches – > thanks to Fabio Ricchiuti! > I will really appreciate it if somebody can get the 2.14.1 out of

Re: Putting a ribbon around 2.14.1?

2021-02-03 Thread Tim Perry
Great! Thank you. On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:44 AM Matt Sicker wrote: > Yes, I'll make sure that it is merged in time for that. > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 10:43, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Is it possible to merge PR 463 for LOG4J-2624 and LOG4J-1606 for 2.14.1? > >

Re: Putting a ribbon around 2.14.1?

2021-02-03 Thread Tim Perry
; > > Matt, if you approve the changes, I can also merge them in a couple of > > > hours. > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, 17:44 Matt Sicker wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I'll make sure that it is merged in time for that. > > > > >

Re: Putting a ribbon around 2.14.1?

2021-02-03 Thread Tim Perry
Volkan, Thank you very much! Tim On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:55 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > Took some time, but managed to get it merged (with succeeding tests) into > master. > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:39 PM Tim Perry wrote: > > > Ideally, yes, but I haven't done any

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-17 Thread Tim Perry
On master, I noticed that when I build in my IDE that lots of tests in log4j-core fail but when I build with maven they pass. In the past, when I've seen this on other projects it was caused by race conditions. I wonder: are there race conditions in the tests or the code that need to be addressed?

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-17 Thread Tim Perry
out the "install" target. > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 13:58, Ralph Goers > wrote: > > > > Yeah, there is a very good chance if you are trying to run tests in core > in parallel on multiple threads that they will fail. Most of them expect > their own LoggerContex

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-17 Thread Tim Perry
iguration a bit more heavily (but also in such a way > that it works more consistently on Windows apparently?) > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 15:36, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > I mean is that: > > > > * when I run "mvn install" on the command line then usually 1

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-17 Thread Tim Perry
e the afterAll(context) method is never called on the LoggerContextResolver. Would that explain why the file stays locked? Tim On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 1:49 PM Tim Perry wrote: > Yes, I am on windows 10. I'm using Zulu OpenJdk for both Java 8 and 11, > maven 3.6.3, and a fairly new Eclipse.

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-18 Thread Tim Perry
ay have found the missing link as to why this > wasn't working properly. In that particular error message, that is > some race condition where the temporary file is attempted to be > deleted before the configuration stops. > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 18:19, Tim Perry wrote: > >

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-19 Thread Tim Perry
. When the status logger was implemented it > targeted System.out, which you obviously never want to close. Shortly there > after the ability to route it to a file instead was added. I guess we just > never thought to add logic to close it at shutdown. > > Ralph > > > On Feb 18,

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-22 Thread Tim Perry
ously we need to make this conditional based on the OS it is running under... https://github.com/perry2of5/logging-log4j2/commit/dec236a4d358b9847ad7710f668749241a1b50e5 On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:26 AM Tim Perry wrote: > The simplest fix is to add "StatusLogger.getLogger().reset();"

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-23 Thread Tim Perry
?) This will > make it easier to review your changes and merge them. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 8:19 PM Tim Perry wrote: > > > I have a fork of log4j2 master that builds on windows here: > > https://github.com/perry2of5/logging-log4j2 > > > > For log4j-core, I close t

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-23 Thread Tim Perry
he code". > > Ralph appears to be the best candidate to answer your questions. But again, > a PR would incentivize others to chime in too. > > One final remark, don't forget to update changes.xml too. > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 10:22 PM Tim Perry wrote: > > &g

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-23 Thread Tim Perry
there and then the OutputStream be closed. > However, I’ve not looked at the code recently so I am not sure what it > takes to do that. > > Ralph > > > On Feb 23, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Thank you, Volkan. > > > > I'm not quite

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-02-23 Thread Tim Perry
was could > be difficult. > Add the call to prepareToStop() as a new Callback to Log4j’s shutdown > registry. However, this callback would need to run last. The shutdown > registry currently doesn’t support a way to specify the order of callbacks. > Support for that would need to be

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] MapMessage put methods should not mandate String values (#477)

2021-03-25 Thread Tim Perry
Would we also have public String getObject(String) {...} What will happen when someone calls get and the object that key is mapped to is not a String? Does it return null? Throw an exception? Instead of allowing non-string values maybe change the type of data to Map instead of and avoid t

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] MapMessage put methods should not mandate String values (#477)

2021-03-25 Thread Tim Perry
an get non-string objects back. On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:51 AM Ralph Goers wrote: > The existing get method does a deep toString on the value object already. > I’m not sure why we would need a new method if the return value is a String. > > Ralph > > > On Mar 25, 2021

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] MapMessage put methods should not mandate String values (#477)

2021-03-25 Thread Tim Perry
ar 25, 2021 at 12:17 PM Ralph Goers wrote: > You getObject method below returns a String. That is why I said the method > isn’t needed. > > Ralph > > > On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > If we are only going to allow strings in the map,

Re: Please do not commit to log4j2 master - but review this PR.

2021-04-01 Thread Tim Perry
Looks okay on Windows. I built on Windows 10 with Zulu Java 8 / 11 in my toolchain and Maven 3.6.3 and it succeeded after I disabled the usual culprits: * log4j-core fails due to the file locking issue with the status logger * log4j-layout-template-json failed with a port unavailable issue. I

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-04-19 Thread Tim Perry
m, is this the intended behaviour? On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:29 AM Matt Sicker wrote: > The StatusLogger has various listeners attached. I think adding and > removing listeners on startup and shutdown of a LoggerContext might be > a potential way to do this? > > On Wed, 24 Feb

Re: What is going on with Master?

2021-04-19 Thread Tim Perry
reconfigure the existing logger in StatusConfiguration.configureExistingStatusConsoleListener(), instead I have the I am now correctly closing the status logger when the context is stopped. I'll push the changes to github after I do a full build On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM Tim Perry wrote:

Re: Running "master" tests in IntelliJ IDEA after Java 11 upgrade

2021-04-19 Thread Tim Perry
Can any of you recommend an idiots guide to setting up a log4j development environment in IntelliJ? I have never used IntelliJ before. Eclipse won't work with a maven project with multiple module-info.java files. There are bugs into the maven-eclipse tools (m2e) for this. I cannot see reverting to

Re: Running "master" tests in IntelliJ IDEA after Java 11 upgrade

2021-04-19 Thread Tim Perry
mmand line does. Now I'm trying to run a unit test by clicking the arrow next to the test and saying run. However, IntelliJ starts a maven build and runs all the tests for log4j-core (which contains the test I am trying to run). Ideas? Thanks, Tim On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 3:34 PM Tim P

Re: Fix windows build on master (via Tim Perry)

2021-04-28 Thread Tim Perry
couple of kinks to work out on that though. If you want, I can push my changes to GitHub and you could take a look at those. There is some problem that’s causing some of the test to fail and I haven’t had time to figure out what the issue is. Tim Tim Perry (916) 505-3634 > On Apr 28, 2021,

Re: Fix windows build on master (via Tim Perry)

2021-04-28 Thread Tim Perry
ll get to it > before you but at least that way we might be able to. > > Ralph > > > On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Volkan, > > > > I should probably withdraw that pull request. > > > > It assumes that the status logger

Re: Fix windows build on master (via Tim Perry)

2021-04-28 Thread Tim Perry
a problem. But if it is going to cause merge conflicts then I > wouldn’t bother as you can just link to the prior PR for the history. > > Ralph > > > On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > > > > > It assumes that the status logger is not a

Re: Fix windows build on master (via Tim Perry)

2021-05-03 Thread Tim Perry
ghts on: 1) managing the StatusLogger lifecycle 2) do I need to move my commits from pull 469 to a branch so they remain accessible? 3) do you want a pull request for the warnings I fixed? Thanks, Tim On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 9:06 AM Tim Perry wrote: > I pushed 46f7b08288e1f8843d293bb75950a

Re: Fix windows build on master (via Tim Perry)

2021-05-04 Thread Tim Perry
d then clean up the temporary config XML file. I took the easy way out here. I did not update changes.xml because nothing I changed affects the end user. Is this the correct way to do this? Please provide feedback on this pull request when it is convenient. Thanks, Tim On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:

Pull 491 - fix windows build

2021-05-26 Thread Tim Perry
Volkan, On pull 491 you requested I make variables final. I did so in commit d70da9e7214d7baa3643363b849e5ec124b7b748. Does that commit show up for you? Does it resolve the issue you flagged? Thanks, Tim

Re: Pull 491 - fix windows build

2021-05-26 Thread Tim Perry
Volkan, Thanks for the update. I don’t mind waiting, I just didn’t know if I’d submitted the change in a way that would work. Tim Tim Perry (916) 505-3634 > On May 26, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > Hey Tim, > > You did a great job there. Unfortunately my

Re: Cek's new log4j vs logback benchmark

2021-08-26 Thread Tim Perry
I’m fairly certain the JIT will optimize out the locking operations on the nested synchronized calls after a while. I’m not sure how soon into the performance tests that would happen. Tim > On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > So are you continuing to look at this? Frankly

Re: Cek's new log4j vs logback benchmark

2021-08-26 Thread Tim Perry
I see your point. On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:21 AM Ralph Goers wrote: > While that is true it does mean that we are locking higher up in the call > stack than we need to be. > > Ralph > > > On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > I’m fairly cert

Re: Zero-copy rolling files

2021-12-18 Thread Tim Perry
I like this idea, but I think it would require non-default permissions for the account the application runs under on windows. However, it could be feature that can be switched on. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/security-policy-settings/create-symbolic-links

Re: Zero-copy rolling files

2021-12-20 Thread Tim Perry
(String). >> >> Gary >> >>> The best solution, that I have found so far is letting "cmd" do the >>> job for me. (The mklink command is not a separate executable, but >>> build into cmd.) >>> https://github.com/jochenw/afw/blob/master

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j 2.3.1-rc1 for Java 6

2021-12-21 Thread Tim Perry
I was able to build on Windows 10, with Zulu Java 6. On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 1:29 PM Remko Popma wrote: > +1 I am changing my vote. > My earlier pipecleaning program failed because the config had a JmsAppender > configured in it... My bad. > Signatures are good. > Pipecleaning program works on J

Re: Broken CI

2021-12-23 Thread Tim Perry
Is it worth marching those tests with @Ignore and filing a Jira for each one? That does seem to set a bad precedent though. Last time I tried I couldn't get the mainline code to load in IntelliJ or Eclipse because of the packing changes that were in progress. Did that get fixed? If so, I might be

Re: Broken CI

2021-12-23 Thread Tim Perry
issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22641 > > -ck > > On Thu, Dec 23, 2021, at 12:25, Tim Perry wrote: > > Is it worth marching those tests with @Ignore and filing a Jira for each > > one? That does seem to set a bad precedent though. > > > > Last time I tri

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Future of Log4j 1.x

2021-12-29 Thread Tim Perry
I propose that this vote should stay open longer than 72 hours given that we are coming up on New Years and many people who would wish to weigh in might be on vacation right now. Tim > On Dec 29, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > Consistent contributors are frequently invited to be c

Re: LOG4J2-3259 Limit max recursion depth when interpolating strings

2022-01-03 Thread Tim Perry
I think Ralph is right: there should (could) be a limit on how often the user is informed but the user does need to be informed. On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 8:32 AM Ralph Goers wrote: > I am in favor of limiting the recursion depth to a configurable with a > default number. > I fully expect virtually

Re: [logging-log4j1] branch v1.2.8 created (now 0cde9dd)

2022-01-06 Thread Tim Perry
Maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't it be 1.2.18? There was already a log4j release 1.2.8 in 2005. On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:54 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > Plus, the branch name sounds like a tag. > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 3:21 PM Gary Gregory > wrote: > > > > -1 This component reached End-o

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] Bump tomcat-catalina from 8.5.20 to 10.0.14 (PR #662)

2022-01-22 Thread Tim Perry
Many libraries are producing one code line for the javax.* environment and another code line for the jakarta.* environment. This is because when Oracle gave the Eclipse Foundation the J2EE code they required name changes. This affects code using Servlet API, JPA, Bean Validation,et cetera. Spring:

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] Bump tomcat-catalina from 8.5.20 to 10.0.14 (PR #662)

2022-01-22 Thread Tim Perry
gree we need an equivalent for JPA, JMS, JavaMail, and the tag library. > > — > Matt Sicker > >> On Jan 22, 2022, at 18:14, Tim Perry wrote: >> >> Many libraries are producing one code line for the javax.* environment and >> another code line for the jakar

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] Bump tomcat-catalina from 8.5.20 to 10.0.14 (PR #662)

2022-01-24 Thread Tim Perry
gt; user wants to stick to a Tomcat version <10, they can still do so. > `org.apache.juli.logging.Log` looks to be intact, hence I don't foresee any > compatibility issues." > > Hence I still think this is a legit upgrade. Am I missing something? > > On Sun, Jan 23, 20

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] Bump tomcat-catalina from 8.5.20 to 10.0.14 (PR #662)

2022-01-27 Thread Tim Perry
following PR, please? > https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/730 > Time, what do you think? > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:21 PM Tim Perry wrote: > > > Sorry Volkan, I think I somehow searched the wrong pom.xml. I was > convinced > > appserver was bringing i

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] Bump tomcat-catalina from 8.5.20 to 10.0.14 (PR #662)

2022-01-27 Thread Tim Perry
gt; environment. We still have support for Servlet 2.5, so as long as > these modules don't see a lot of active development and continue to be > releasable, then I don't see the problem with keeping both for a long > time. > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 1:44 PM Tim Perry wrote: &g

Re: [apache/logging-log4j2] Bump tomcat-catalina from 8.5.20 to 10.0.14 (PR #662)

2022-01-27 Thread Tim Perry
lph Goers wrote: > > Is there a reason that the javax and Jakarta components can’t both reside > in the log4j-appserver module? The don’t share the same package space > so that shouldn’t be a problem. > > Ralph > >> On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Tim Perry wrote: &

Re: Order of property sources

2022-03-15 Thread Tim Perry
In that case, should log4j log a warning if more than one provider is included? Tim > On Mar 15, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > I would not be in favor of this change. Providers have been designed since > day one that highest wins and it is documented - > https://logging.apache.or

Re: Dependencies for `log4j-jakarta-smtp`

2022-04-19 Thread Tim Perry
Will including `com.sun.activation:jakarta.activation` and `com.sun.mail:smtp` be a problem on application servers that already include implementations of them? My knowledge of the J2EE application servers is incomplete for the modern (Java 11+) versions. On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 5:05 PM Matt Sic

Re: Dependencies for `log4j-jakarta-smtp`

2022-04-19 Thread Tim Perry
Good point. Thank you, Matt. On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 10:49 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > If they cause an issue, it's trivial to exclude those dependencies in > Maven, Gradle, or really any other build system. I suppose we can find > out from users. :) > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 a

Re: Trying to Test and Build release-2.x Failing Locally

2022-04-21 Thread Tim Perry
Yes, you need JDK 8. https://www.azul.com/downloads/?version=java-8-lts&package=jdk or similar. On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:57 PM Mohammed Barayyan wrote: > Does that mean I have to install JDK 8? or can I modify the toolchains or > the pom.xml to achieve that? > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 7:56 PM

Re: More test failures

2022-05-29 Thread Tim Perry
Do you remember the last release they worked in. I could use git bisect to find when they broke if I have a good starting point. I have some time to run it this afternoon…, Tim Tim Perry (916) 505-3634 > On May 29, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > So I have been trying t

Re: More test failures

2022-05-29 Thread Tim Perry
They referred to the tests. Do you know a commit they worked at? Tim > On May 29, 2022, at 12:43 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > Who is they? You mean me? This is on the master branch. It has never been > released. > > Ralph > >> On May 29, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Tim

Re: Compile `release-2.x` with JDK 11

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Perry
I've run into an issue where javac 11+ will emit valid java 8 code for functions that weren't added to Java until after java 8. When the code is run on Java 8 runtime errors appear complaining about functions missing from classes that are part of the JRE. Most recently I ran into this when I used j

Re: Compile `release-2.x` with JDK 11

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Perry
> work with the `java18` signature > <https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.codehaus.mojo.signature/java18>? > >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:32 PM Tim Perry wrote: >> >> I've run into an issue where javac 11+ will emit valid java 8 code for >> functions tha

Re: Compile `release-2.x` with JDK 11

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Perry
Java 11 and explains what went wrong. Thanks for reminding me what the issue was. Sorry to have brought this up, but I suppose we are better safe than sorry. Happy Sunday. Tim On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:26 PM Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 at 20:32, Ti

Re: Compile `release-2.x` with JDK 11

2022-06-13 Thread Tim Perry
3.x becomes the > new current will be great since I assume we’d all like to continue > maintaining bug fixes and such for 2.x for a few years at least. > > — > Matt Sicker > > > On Jun 12, 2022, at 16:47, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Piotr, > > > >

Re: Dependencies for `log4j-jakarta-smtp`

2022-07-14 Thread Tim Perry
Karwasz wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 at 19:32, Tim Perry wrote: > > > > Will including `com.sun.activation:jakarta.activation` and > > `com.sun.mail:smtp` be a problem on application servers > > that already include implementations of them? My > >

Re: Javadoc HTML, JARs, and JXR

2023-02-14 Thread Tim Perry
I was going to say the same thing. I'm wondering if there is ever a situation where someone can download the javadoc jars but not source jars. On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 9:58 AM Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi Matt, > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 at 17:58, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > > ... I’m not sure if IDEs

Re: Javadoc HTML, JARs, and JXR

2023-02-14 Thread Tim Perry
I see no purpose > for Javadoc JARs. As a matter of fact, displaying (java)docs from sources > also enable IDEs to allow users to jump directly to sources too, which I > think is tremendously convenient. > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 7:57 PM Tim Perry wrote: > > > I was going to say

Re: [log4j] Checkout from git is broken

2023-03-09 Thread Tim Perry
The warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. means that the remote (bare) repository contains *branch reference* in the file called HEAD with a value that does not match any published branch in the same repository. In practice, that file defines *which branch* should be

Re: Renaming `log4j-core`

2023-06-24 Thread Tim Perry
Can we publish log4j-core so it spits out a deprecation warning and just pulls in log4j-impl or log4j-runtime or whatever? That might address Ralph's concern. If we can't avoid the issues Ralph describes, then I'd vote -1 too. On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 8:13 AM Ralph Goers wrote: > Pretend for a mo

Re: Renaming `log4j-core`

2023-06-26 Thread Tim Perry
t 11:32 PM, Piotr P. Karwasz >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 22:00, Tim Perry wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can we publish log4j-core so it spits out a deprecation warning and just

Move Chainsaw to dormant: Q

2024-02-12 Thread Tim Perry
Do dormant projects clearly indicate they can be re-animated by a sufficient number of active committers? Thanks, Tim