Re: Anyone interested in the Gradle build, please comment on SOLR-13915

2019-11-15 Thread Dawid Weiss
I can handle this, Erick (on the branch). In short, "assemble" is a task added by the "base" gradle plugin. This is just a placeholder for things that should be "assembled" in the project. The java plugin puts together a jar file from compiled classes, for example. Gradle projects typically don't

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Erick Erickson
Thanks, I just put it in gradle tasks for now. on to the equivalent of “ant server dist”. > On Nov 15, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Doesn't make sense to spend much time on such discussions, Erick, not > at this early stage. If you like it -- leave it in, I have no problem > with

Anyone interested in the Gradle build, please comment on SOLR-13915

2019-11-15 Thread Erick Erickson
In a nutshell, it doesn’t look like there’s any task that populates: ../solr/server/solr-webapp/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/ ../solr/server/lib/ext/ ../solr/server/lib/ with jar files. So "solr/bin/solr start” simply can’t start since it defines CLASSPATH to point to them. Before I try to mimic the Ant

Re: Welcome Houston Putman as Lucene/Solr committer

2019-11-15 Thread Mike Drob
Welcome, Houston! On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:00 PM Shalin Shekhar Mangar < shalinman...@gmail.com> wrote: > Congratulations and welcome Houston! > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:39 PM Houston Putman > wrote: > >> Thanks everyone! >> >> As requested, a brief history of me: >> >> A native Austinite,

Re: Welcome Houston Putman as Lucene/Solr committer

2019-11-15 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
Congratulations and welcome Houston! On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:39 PM Houston Putman wrote: > Thanks everyone! > > As requested, a brief history of me: > > A native Austinite, I went to The University of Texas at Austin. Back in > 2013 I lucked into an internship with Bloomberg working on a new

Re: Do we want to pursue an LTS designation?

2019-11-15 Thread Erick Erickson
Bram: Andrzej Bailecki and I worked on something similar, it might be good to compare notes. I gave a talk last Activate that might be useful for you to look at for ideas. Basically there are several issues we worked out: 1> how to insure that all segments were rewritten 2> If the schema is

Re: Do we want to pursue an LTS designation?

2019-11-15 Thread Bram Van Dam
On 15/11/2019 19:14, Jörn Franke wrote: > Well sometimes even reindexing might not always be avoidable when upgrading. > However, there should be a more user friendly way. Not every Solr deployment > that one might inherit has foreseen this. Eg in case Solr is used as a NoSQL > database where

Re: Do we want to pursue an LTS designation?

2019-11-15 Thread Jörn Franke
Well sometimes even reindexing might not always be avoidable when upgrading. However, there should be a more user friendly way. Not every Solr deployment that one might inherit has foreseen this. Eg in case Solr is used as a NoSQL database where the application puts data in Solr, but not

Re: Do we want to pursue an LTS designation?

2019-11-15 Thread Jörn Franke
Well sometimes even reindexing might not always be avoidable when upgrading. However, there should be a more user friendly way. Not every Solr deployment that one might inherit has foreseen this. Eg in case Solr is used as a NoSQL database where the application puts data in Solr, but not

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Dawid Weiss
Doesn't make sense to spend much time on such discussions, Erick, not at this early stage. If you like it -- leave it in, I have no problem with it whatsoever. Dawid On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:02 PM Erick Erickson wrote: > > Added SOLR-13935 for this general topic, please comment there if you’d

Re: Do we want to pursue an LTS designation?

2019-11-15 Thread Bram Van Dam
On 13/11/2019 20:36, Erick Erickson wrote: > I have zero interest in having an LTS “policy” that requires any further > commitment of my personal time to random people who ask for it but aren’t > willing to pay. I consider my non-paid work to Solr a _volunteer_ activity, > not something anyone

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Erick Erickson
Added SOLR-13935 for this general topic, please comment there if you’d rather. > On Nov 15, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: > >> Instead of a help.txt file though, how about some help task? ./gradlew >> helpAnt? > > I don't think that's easier, to be honest. You need to know which task

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Erick Erickson
> But again -- why pollute the build file with stuff > that could be just a set of plain-text files All depends on how you define “simplest" ;). One definition is how few different systems I have to use. Another is how can I get this information in the least complicated way I don’t have a lot

Re: Welcome Houston Putman as Lucene/Solr committer

2019-11-15 Thread Steve Rowe
Congrats and welcome Houston! -- Steve > On Nov 15, 2019, at 1:09 AM, Houston Putman wrote: > > Thanks everyone! > > As requested, a brief history of me: > > A native Austinite, I went to The University of Texas at Austin. Back in 2013 > I lucked into an internship with Bloomberg working on

Re: Welcome Houston Putman as Lucene/Solr committer

2019-11-15 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Congrats and welcome, Houston! (Austin is a great city, we had the Lucene Solr Revolution there one!) On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:59 PM Ignacio Vera wrote: > > Welcome Houston! > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:07 AM Alan Woodward wrote: >> >> Welcome Houston! >> >> > On 14 Nov 2019, at 08:57,

Re: Welcome Houston Putman as Lucene/Solr committer

2019-11-15 Thread Ignacio Vera
Welcome Houston! On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:07 AM Alan Woodward wrote: > Welcome Houston! > > > On 14 Nov 2019, at 08:57, Anshum Gupta wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Please join me in welcoming Houston Putman as the latest Lucene/Solr > committer! > > > > Houston has been involved with the

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Dawid Weiss
> Instead of a help.txt file though, how about some help task? ./gradlew > helpAnt? I don't think that's easier, to be honest. You need to know which task to invoke (and how). A plain file is just right there in your face. > it works just fine. Does this seem consistent with the structure of

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Erick Erickson
Ohhh, I really like this, especially given the amount of time I’ve spent looking at all of the possible tasks…. Instead of a help.txt file though, how about some help task? ./gradlew helpAnt? But I need a sanity check here before pushing this (assuming y’all agree) before I go changing some

Re: Welcome Houston Putman as Lucene/Solr committer

2019-11-15 Thread Alan Woodward
Welcome Houston! > On 14 Nov 2019, at 08:57, Anshum Gupta wrote: > > Hi all, > > Please join me in welcoming Houston Putman as the latest Lucene/Solr > committer! > > Houston has been involved with the community since 2013, when he first > contributed the Analytics contrib module. Since

Re: gradle module/project structure

2019-11-15 Thread Dawid Weiss
> Want to raise a JIRA (task?) and put it in the umbrella task? (SOLR-13914)? > I’m trying to keep all these kinds of TODO’s in a place we won’t forget them. I won't forget this -- it's too annoying. ;) We can't change the folder structure now because merges would be too painful (and if we want