Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Xeno Amess
well I just doubt. From: Xeno Amess Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 12:18:42 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Java version for Maven 4? well nothing affensive but do any guys got any payments from those still-java-6 companies for maintaining maven for t

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Xeno Amess
well nothing affensive but do any guys got any payments from those still-java-6 companies for maintaining maven for them? From: Gary Gregory Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 6:14:32 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Java version for Maven 4? An interestin

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Gary Gregory
An interesting question for me is whether we need to think about companies that pay for old JDK support and how that affects our support for these old JDKs. Gary On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 4:28 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 2:22 PM Romain Manni-Bucau > wrote: > > > > Hi El

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 2:22 PM Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > > Hi Elliotte, > Java 11 support is already EOL for most vendor until you go "premium" > flavor which will likely be very few people and most of them will be able > to pay somebody to backport the needed stuff in custom distro of their wo

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Benjamin Marwell
> I get the impression that folks who haven't worked in such large > mono-repos aren't aware of just how big a multi-year effort it is to > move a repo like that onto a new JDK version. And that's just the VM, > even before you allow devs to change the language level and start > using the new featu

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Howdy, and sorry, I could not hold my breath... Basically, you talk about some project somewhere that has been built with Maven3 for the past 10 years. Fine: You can continue building it using the same Maven3 for another 10 years, nothing stops you. But I see really nothing, but really nothing th

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Elliotte, While I share the wish 1 repo = 1 JDK, I have a hard time to see how any company - including the ones you cite - can seriously bet on Java 11 today for the future (not saying it wasnt hard to reach Java 11 today but we are discussing on what we'll do tomorrow) and why it would pushbac

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Gary Gregory
Based on my experience, I think we (FOSS developers) can create our own momentum by "simply" creating an EOL schedule. I have seen this EOL aspect motivate the move away from Jetty 9 for example. Since Maven 4 is not out, there is nothing to EOL in Maven 3 land unless you want to say that only 3.9.

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:01 PM Benjamin Marwell wrote: > Why 17? 11 is often earlier EOL'd than 8 and 17, so I see absolutely > no advantage of going to 11: > The advantage of going with 11 instead of 17 is that at least 2 really big tech companies I could name (and who you can probably guess f

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Benjamin Marwell
Those who need Java 8 to *run* Maven will probably not upgrade to Maven 4 anyway, as their builds will have other problems preventing them from upgrading. A few third-party plugins already moved to Java 11+, thinking of spotless. That said: +1 Stick with 8 for Maven 3.9.x and maybe a 3.10.x (not

Re: How to test lifecycle extension?

2024-02-05 Thread tison
Implemented in https://github.com/tisonspieces/os-detector/pull/4. Best, tison. tison 于2024年2月5日周一 21:34写道: > > I found Maven Invoker is a component that can be used [1]. Let me try > to make an example. > > Best, > tison. > > [1] https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-invoker/usage.html > > tiso

Re: How to test lifecycle extension?

2024-02-05 Thread tison
I found Maven Invoker is a component that can be used [1]. Let me try to make an example. Best, tison. [1] https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-invoker/usage.html tison 于2024年1月25日周四 11:09写道: > > Hi, > > I'm writing a Mojo with an Extension extending > AbstractMavenLifecycleParticipant. > > No

Re: Java version for Maven 4?

2024-02-05 Thread Xeno Amess
I vote for kill jdk8 out as to force them upgrade to 11+ From: Tamás Cservenák Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 10:35:55 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Java version for Maven 4? Howdy, See Inline. On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 3:01 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold w