On 29/06/2006 2:54 AM, Alexandre Poitras wrote:
I had started some documentation based on the Trails idea :
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/The+Maven+2+tutorial
but stopped since "Better Builds with Maven" was exactly what I wanted
to produce. Feel to use anything.
Sorry to discoura
I had started some documentation based on the Trails idea :
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/The+Maven+2+tutorial
but stopped since "Better Builds with Maven" was exactly what I wanted
to produce. Feel to use anything.
On 6/25/06, Dennis Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jason van Z
Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 19 Jun 06, at 12:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote:
John Casey wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can
someone who
knows please link them in?
btw
On 6/19/06, Rinku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Some sites:
[A] http://java.sun.com/javase/
[B] http://ant.apache.org/
Some notes:
1) L.H.S nav categories are concise. For example, "Reference" in [A]
above has links to all documentation resources. "Community" has all the
stuff about forum
Hi Jason and List,
The last result was on the mavenuser wiki.
I can also found some paper notes i wrote some month ago.
If you are interrested, i could rewrote what i had.
Raphaël
2006/6/19, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote:
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To: "Maven Developers List"
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:54 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote:
On 19/06/2006 10:47 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Then I'll work with John and yourself to bring them back into th
ose a search-ability/adds a better search.
-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June
19, 2006 7:21 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Humans aren'
ose a search-ability/adds a better search.
-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June
19, 2006 7:21 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Humans aren'
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:54 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote:
On 19/06/2006 10:47 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Then I'll work with John and yourself to bring them back into the
discussions on the mailing list. I'm curious to see what might
fall out though I might just be setting myself up to be
dis
Hopefully the reorg
solution doesn't lose a search-ability/adds a better search.
-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19,
2006 7:21 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun
On 19/06/2006 10:47 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Then I'll work with John and yourself to bring them back into the
discussions on the mailing list. I'm curious to see what might fall out
though I might just be setting myself up to be disappointed by lack of
involvement but I'll give a shot. I think
M
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Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the
guides.
So why don't they find it?
http://m
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote:
Do we really think there are any ideas that haven't been
encountered in all these messages?
Absolutely. If 10 people make a site I guarantee you something will
fall out that hasn't been seen.
If users don't want to help in this
. Hopefully the reorg
solution doesn't lose a search-ability/adds a better search.
-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:21 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geo
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Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:21 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the
guides.
On 19/06/2006 10:16 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
A lot of the folks here and users had ideas on how to make the site
better so how about we solicit for a users' favourite site with respect
to usability.
Actually, that's what I was aiming for. There was a lot of feedback
before, so I wanted to ma
ginal Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:21 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
> Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
> Many
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the
guides.
So why don't they find it?
http://maven.apache.org/guides/index.html
links to a lot of good guides, but the
On 19 Jun 06, at 12:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote:
John Casey wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm
having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can
someone who
knows please link them in?
btw:
http://mail-archi
Yep, I think this thread was unanimous on that point.
- Brett
On 19/06/2006 10:08 PM, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the guides.
So why don't they find it?
http://maven.apache.org/guides/in
Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the guides.
So why don't they find it?
http://maven.apache.org/guides/index.html
links to a lot of good guides, but the way it is structured is plain
wrong imho:
- When people want to
John Casey wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can someone
who
knows please link them in?
btw:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-dev/200603.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTE
Hi,
Some thoughts here, then going to follow with a mail that incorporates
some more of the past discussions, and hopefully, finally, an action plan.
John Casey wrote:
I've put my ideas here:
http://www.commonjava.org/~jdcasey/maven-documentation-proposal.html
Prefer this inline for a coupl
See comments inline...
John Casey wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can someone
who
knows please link them in?
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven
Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 16 Jun 06, at 3:24 PM 16 Jun 06, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
Wendy Smoak wrote:
On 6/14/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven
developers,
and I think it's time we started making website documentation a top
p
I think the search interface is a great addition but shouldn't be used in
place of a front page. I would think the front page would have generic
links to areas of information. Things like:
User: Getting Started
Dev: Getting Started
References (XML xsd/dtds with human readable information for ge
On 16 Jun 06, at 3:24 PM 16 Jun 06, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
Wendy Smoak wrote:
On 6/14/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven
developers,
and I think it's time we started making website documentation a
top priority
for Maven.
Wendy Smoak wrote:
On 6/14/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven developers,
and I think it's time we started making website documentation a top
priority
for Maven.
General thoughts -- I never navigate the Maven site, I go st
On 16 Jun 06, at 4:18 AM 16 Jun 06, Trygve Laugstøl wrote:
Trygve Laugstøl wrote:
Edwin Punzalan wrote:
Definitely deserves +1
However, I'm still torn between using apt and a wiki site but
whichever wins I think the obvious casualty will be the site-plugin.
If we continue on using the p
Trygve Laugstøl wrote:
Edwin Punzalan wrote:
Definitely deserves +1
However, I'm still torn between using apt and a wiki site but
whichever wins I think the obvious casualty will be the site-plugin.
If we continue on using the pages generated by the site plugin, and
based from John Casey'
Edwin Punzalan wrote:
Definitely deserves +1
However, I'm still torn between using apt and a wiki site but whichever
wins I think the obvious casualty will be the site-plugin.
If we continue on using the pages generated by the site plugin, and
based from John Casey's "Core Documentation" po
John Casey wrote:
[SNIP]
It will come as no surprise that I think you should encourage more
user-contributed documentation. (Aside from submitting patches for
the apt source-- that's too high a barrier if you just want to share a
plugin configuration example that works for you.)
Agreed. I'
Definitely deserves +1
However, I'm still torn between using apt and a wiki site but whichever
wins I think the obvious casualty will be the site-plugin.
If we continue on using the pages generated by the site plugin, and
based from John Casey's "Core Documentation" point #2, it will be a
m
On 6/15/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can someone who
knows please link them in?
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other
[SNIP]
It will come as no surprise that I think you should encourage more
user-contributed documentation. (Aside from submitting patches for
the apt source-- that's too high a barrier if you just want to share a
plugin configuration example that works for you.)
Agreed. I'd like to see if we
On 6/14/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven developers,
and I think it's time we started making website documentation a top priority
for Maven.
General thoughts -- I never navigate the Maven site, I go straight to
Google. (So
Hi John,
Here are inlined some propositions.
2006/6/15, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi everyone,
[SNIP]
I've put my ideas here:
http://www.commonjava.org/~jdcasey/maven-documentation-proposal.html
I apologize if it looks like I ripped off someone else's ideas...I
honestly
cannot fin
Rahul,
I agree that the accompanying projects/sub-projects should be documented
but that also seems like common sense. I also agree heavily with Jimisola.
When I first tried Maven, I canned it within a mont or so due to lack of
documentation. That is getting better with "Better Builds With Ma
+1 for documentation reorganization on the Maven website.
Also, quickly wanted to add that documenting Maven would, IMHO,
encompass a number of other projects/sub-projects (For instance ones
appearing in the top navigation on the Maven homepage). I think we need
to include them in the scope a
this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/-Proposal--Documenting-Maven-t1789063.html#a4874428
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A big +1!
- Dan
John Casey wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can
someone who
knows please link them in?
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven develo
John,
I'll put a +1 on that one. I am fairly new to Maven development and
non-standard Maven use and I feel that the documentation is lacking. Even
when there is documentation it isn't complete.
Take care,
Jeremy
On 6/14/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know we've
Hi everyone,
I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having
trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can someone who
knows please link them in?
Basically, I've talked to Brett, Jason, and a few other Maven developers,
and I think it's time we started
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