Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-09-03 Thread John Casey
IMO, the change in version scheme could be a very positive thing, as it emphasizes introducing a feature at a time instead of pushing them all in and claiming that everything is mostly working with some bugs. I think this may help us manage the chaos that comes from introducing these sorts of

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-09-03 Thread Dennis Lundberg
As others have said before, since you John are the one doing most of the work on this I trust your judgement in choosing the best option. John Casey wrote: IMO, the change in version scheme could be a very positive thing, as it emphasizes introducing a feature at a time instead of pushing them

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-09-01 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 for #1 On 29-Aug-08, at 9:02 AM, John Casey wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the 2.1.0 codeline. The version for this release would be 2.1.0-M1. The advantage of this approach is that it keeps is

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-09-01 Thread Mark Hobson
I'm +1 for #1. Cheers, Mark 2008/8/29 John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the 2.1.0 codeline. The version for this release would be 2.1.0-M1. The advantage of this approach is that it

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
the alternative that I see is if we set a cut-off date for features to be complete. if all features for 2.1.0 must be completed in 4 weeks and we leave 4 weeks to stabilize then I don't see the need to give a definitive list of features for 2.1.0 *now*. [however as I am not currently an

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-30 Thread Dennis Lundberg
My personal preference is #2 The reasoning behind this is that we'd be introducing yet another versioning scheme into the mix that we already have. This might be confusing to our users and as John hinted at might not attract as many users. John Casey wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-30 Thread Mauro Talevi
Brian E. Fox wrote: Until I see a definitive list of the Milestones for 2.1, I vote for #2. I am mostly afraid of going down the rat hole that was the old 2.1 with forever changing scope. I don't see any problem with calling this 2.1 and putting in the other features into 2.2, what's the

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 for #1 Dan On Friday 29 August 2008 12:02:12 pm John Casey wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the 2.1.0 codeline. The version for this release would be 2.1.0-M1. The advantage of this approach is that

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
I vote that this poll is closed in 48hrs (I only want a decision soon, I dot care which ;-) ) Sent from my iPod On 29 Aug 2008, at 17:02, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:02 AM, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: I have a slight preference for #2 since I prefer httpd-style versioning (it's just a number). However, my vote goes to whatever John wants, since he's doing most of the work.

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 for #1 John Casey wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the 2.1.0 codeline. The version for this release would be 2.1.0-M1. The advantage of this approach is that it keeps is (relatively) focused on only

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread John Casey
We have a good codebase now, that's not going to rot if it takes a full 72h to decide what to call it. At that point, and after I spin this latest RC12 with the two nasty bugs fixed, it should be basically a formality to vote for the actual release, and we can get this done. It's not 6 months

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Raphaël Piéroni
+0.99 for 1 +0.01 for 2 I really like 2.0.10 to be 2.1.0-M1 but i dislike the name i would prefer 2.1.0-beta-1 I don't have found any document stating which pre x.y.z (with x, y, z integers) standard maven follows. Raphaël 2008/8/29, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, Let's put it to a

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
I don't mind 72hrs... it's just you forgot to specify how long the vote is open for ;-) Sent from my iPod On 29 Aug 2008, at 17:29, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a good codebase now, that's not going to rot if it takes a full 72h to decide what to call it. At that point, and

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Fabulich
OK, OK, you're convincing me. I was just about to write up an e-mail about how we don't have to do it as four codebases: since 2.1.0 would just be like 2.0.10, we'd EOL 2.0.x immediately upon releasing 2.1.0, and put all future bugfixes there. But that'll require a lot of arguing and

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
I think m1 is more concrete than a beta, while signalling that it's not feature complete Sent from my iPod On 29 Aug 2008, at 17:32, Raphaël Piéroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +0.99 for 1 +0.01 for 2 I really like 2.0.10 to be 2.1.0-M1 but i dislike the name i would prefer 2.1.0-beta-1 I

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread John Casey
FWIW, this will be a standard ASF vote...72h. :-) John Casey wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the 2.1.0 codeline. The version for this release would be 2.1.0-M1. The advantage of this approach is that it

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread John Casey
yeah, the feature-completeness is why I want to stay away from betas on this if we go that route. Betas are supposed to be feature-complete with bugs that are [probably] still in the system...that's not what we have here. Stephen Connolly wrote: I think m1 is more concrete than a beta, while

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread John Casey
I'm okay with frowny faces... :) Dan Fabulich wrote: OK, OK, you're convincing me. I was just about to write up an e-mail about how we don't have to do it as four codebases: since 2.1.0 would just be like 2.0.10, we'd EOL 2.0.x immediately upon releasing 2.1.0, and put all future bugfixes

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Ralph Goers
Then my vote is advisory as I'm not on the PMC. Ralph John Casey said: FWIW, this will be a standard ASF vote...72h. :-) John Casey wrote: Okay, Let's put it to a vote. We have two options: 1. Release the current release candidate as milestone 1 of the 2.1.0 codeline. The version for

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
friday evening Maven 1 ? Ohh no, not it ! /friday evening On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Stephen Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think m1 is more concrete than a beta, while signalling that it's not feature complete Sent from my iPod On 29 Aug 2008, at 17:32, Raphaël

Re: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Brett Porter
+1 to #1 (we can always re-release it as 2.1.0 soon after if that seems better). No objection if we go with #2 either. Concrete opinions: * We should only be maintaining two 2.x branches (one bugfixes, one for features), no more. We need to get them all back into compilable/ IT-passing

RE: [vote] Version for pending release

2008-08-29 Thread Brian E. Fox
Until I see a definitive list of the Milestones for 2.1, I vote for #2. I am mostly afraid of going down the rat hole that was the old 2.1 with forever changing scope. I don't see any problem with calling this 2.1 and putting in the other features into 2.2, what's the problem? -Original