Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
True! ...and also the name common is very common... :-) And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ... -M On 10/31/07, Volker Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a apache commons like project, just not located in commons.apache.org. If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Volker Weber
It is a apache commons like project, just not located in commons.apache.org. If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear enough this is a myfaces project. And imho it should contain tools, components, ... for jsf users like apache-commons-beanutils contains java-collection stuff for java

[jira] Created: (TOBAGO-527) tcs:tree can't get marked node

2007-10-31 Thread Jens (JIRA)
tcs:tree can't get marked node Key: TOBAGO-527 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-527 Project: MyFaces Tobago Issue Type: Improvement Affects Versions: 1.0.13 Reporter: Jens

[jira] Commented: (TOMAHAWK-1115) Adding Tiles2 support to tomahawk

2007-10-31 Thread Navid Mitchell (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1115?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539030 ] Navid Mitchell commented on TOMAHAWK-1115: -- I agree with Andrew. I think it is bad form to make Tomahawk

[commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
What are the thoughts about providing a Joda DateTime converter in the upcoming commons project ? -M -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Cagatay Civici
Although it'll create a dependency, Joda is great:) so +1. Cagatay On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the thoughts about providing a Joda DateTime converter in the upcoming commons project ? -M -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog:

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 Regarding dependencies: We should be careful about dependencies in jsfcommons. Right. The Joda converter would be a candidate for an *optional* compile dependency. --Manfred On 10/31/07, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although it'll create a dependency, Joda is great:) so +1.

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Ron Smits
Grins I give up :) as far as I am concerned call it that (booring!!! :) ) Ron On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True! ...and also the name common is very common... :-) And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ... -M On 10/31/07, Volker Weber [EMAIL

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Regarding dependencies: We should be careful about dependencies in jsfcommons. Right. The Joda converter would be a candidate for an *optional* compile dependency. +1 --Manfred On 10/31/07, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although it'll create a dependency, Joda is great:)

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Simon Kitching
I don't see any problem with introducing optional dependencies. For example, commons-logging is a library that has about half-a-dozen optional dependencies, one for each concrete logging library that it has built-in support for. This causes no problems at all AFAIK. The only thing to look out

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Nice, this converter can be easily moved over to the JSF2.0 API, in case they want support the new DateTime JSR (310), which is inspired / based on Joda. -Matthias On 10/31/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! What are the thoughts about providing a Joda DateTime converter in

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! What are the thoughts about providing a Joda DateTime converter in the upcoming commons project ? BTW, we use Joda here for a long time, so I have something to contribute Ciao, Mario

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Ron Smits
I can live with that Ron On 10/31/07, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there where some discussions about what should be in this new project and what not: Renderkit independent components yes/no? Only static utils, convenient base classes? I have a suggestion that would solve

[jira] Created: (TOBAGO-528) selectOneRenderer did not render disabled

2007-10-31 Thread Volker Weber (JIRA)
selectOneRenderer did not render disabled -- Key: TOBAGO-528 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-528 Project: MyFaces Tobago Issue Type: Bug Components: Themes

Re: Trinidad with Woodstock

2007-10-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, never ever read a question regarding woodstock noticed here :-) I am not aware of issues. Also I am not are of a smooth integration. Perhaps worth to try... and let others know ? Sorry, Matthias On 10/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anbody made experiences

[jira] Resolved: (TOBAGO-528) selectOneRenderer did not render disabled

2007-10-31 Thread Volker Weber (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-528?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Volker Weber resolved TOBAGO-528. - Resolution: Fixed selectOneRenderer did not render disabled

Trinidad with Woodstock

2007-10-31 Thread wolfgang . toepfer
Hi, Has anbody made experiences with combining Trinidad and Woodstock? Are there any bigger issues to expect, such as e.g. when combining RichFaces with Trinidad? Is the skinning combinable? Thanks for any info! Best wishes, Wolfgang.

[jira] Created: (TOBAGO-529) TabChangeListener tag should allow methodBinding

2007-10-31 Thread Volker Weber (JIRA)
TabChangeListener tag should allow methodBinding Key: TOBAGO-529 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-529 Project: MyFaces Tobago Issue Type: Improvement Components:

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Simon Lessard
I can live with that as well, the name speaks for itself, but it's s loong. ~ Simon On 10/31/07, Ron Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can live with that Ron On 10/31/07, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there where some discussions about what should be in this new

Combining Oracle Web Help with Trinidad help facet

2007-10-31 Thread wolfgang . toepfer
Hi, I am looking for documentation links regarding the use of Trinidad's help facet. More concretely speaking, I would like to to use it with Oracle Web help. Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Wolfgang.

Re: Combining Oracle Web Help with Trinidad help facet

2007-10-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Never used that... But... perhaps you can check old ADF Faces 10.x documentation and try to get it into Trinidad. Like here: http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/html/B25947_01/appendixa010.htm the adf-faces-config.xml is named now trinidad-config.xml (for instance) -M On 10/31/07, [EMAIL

Re: [Trinidad] Dialog - lightweight dialogs

2007-10-31 Thread Danny Robinson
+1 for 1.0.4 On 10/30/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, to have the lightweight dialog working, you have to configure this: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.ENABLE_LIGHTWEIGHT_DIALOGS=true in your web.xml. This feature works nice! Should we make the lightweight dialog

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Well, I think there's probably enough difference between the two goals that we do need to separate projects, even though it contributes to the Yet Another MyFaces Subproject quagmire. At least it's a step in the right direction since we're looking at merging common code rather than futher

Name for MyFaces Common Project was Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Spencer
I like Manfred Geiler idea around MyFaces JSF Commons. Paul Spencer Simon Lessard wrote: I can live with that as well, the name speaks for itself, but it's s loong. ~ Simon On 10/31/07, Ron Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can live with that Ron On 10/31/07, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! I have a suggestion that would solve this (and the naming as well): Let's start a new MLP* called MyFaces JSF Commons which is itself an umbrella project for two artifacts** called MyFaces JSF Commons Utils and MyFaces JSF Commons Components For the artifact names I propose:

Need summary of intent and contend to each MyFaces JSF Commons subproject was (Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project)

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Spencer
Please summarize the intent and proposed contents of each subproject on a wiki page. A common refactoring page already exists [1]. The resulting pages should be moved in each project's site documentation Paul Spencer [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/MyFaces_Commons_Refactoring Simon

ApacheCon US plans?

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Spencer
I am planing on attending ApacheCon in Atlanta this year. Is are their any MyFaces gathering planned? Paul Spencer

Need summary of intent and contend to each MyFaces JSF Commons subproject was (Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project)

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Spencer
Please summarize the intent and proposed contents of each subproject on a wiki page. A common refactoring page already exists [1]. The resulting pages should be moved in each project's site documentation Paul Spencer [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/MyFaces_Commons_Refactoring Simon

[jira] Commented: (TRINIDAD-769) Tree / TreeTable skinning improvements

2007-10-31 Thread Catalin Kormos (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-769?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539093 ] Catalin Kormos commented on TRINIDAD-769: - Hi Cristi, Sorry, i think you'll have to provide any new files

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
On 10/31/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I have a suggestion that would solve this (and the naming as well): Let's start a new MLP* called MyFaces JSF Commons which is itself an umbrella project for two artifacts** called MyFaces JSF Commons Utils and MyFaces JSF

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Volker Weber
Hi, i don't understand what should go into the utils and what into the components parts. I think we can mix static utils with renderkid independent components in one library. for renderkid dependend compeonents we have already tomahawk, tobago and trinidad. Regards, Volker 2007/10/31,

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Mike Kienenberger
We're discussing two completely different concepts here. One is an api for writing new components. For component developers. One is a library of common renderkit-independent components for use in JSF applications. For application developers. Attempting to combine them is going to shortchange

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! which is itself an umbrella project for two artifacts** called MyFaces JSF Commons Utils and MyFaces JSF Commons Components I suggest that I prepare an initial setup, and check it in, so that there is some concrete stuff we can talk about. Ok? I still don't get why we should

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
On 10/31/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! which is itself an umbrella project for two artifacts** called MyFaces JSF Commons Utils and MyFaces JSF Commons Components I suggest that I prepare an initial setup, and check it in, so that there is some concrete

[vote] new myfaces-master-pom version 1

2007-10-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
This is the official vote for the release of our new MyFaces Master-POM. The current myfaces-master POM has some flaws as was discussed in [1]. I already have tested a complete build of core and tomahawk with the new master. I have NOT tested Trinidad and Tobago yet (both currently do not depend

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
The point is: For myfaces-jsfcommons-components we must provide additional stuff in the jar. You know: taglib, faces-config.xml, ... This is what we do NOT want in the myfaces-jsfcommons-utils jars to - keep it simple, and - avoid unwanted side-effects Please mind: Not yet sure, but the

Re: [commons] Joda support ?

2007-10-31 Thread Andrew Robinson
+1 On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the thoughts about providing a Joda DateTime converter in the upcoming commons project ? -M -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Volker Weber
What is the problem having a taglib in the jar? 2007/10/31, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/31/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! which is itself an umbrella project for two artifacts** called MyFaces JSF Commons Utils and MyFaces JSF Commons

Re: [Trinidad] Dialog - lightweight dialogs

2007-10-31 Thread Andrew Robinson
1. opening (background) window clickable (ie. not greyed out) for modal popups in firefox Firefox has a bug with performance and graying out multiple controls, so it should not be used. The modal nature is still implemented though. -A

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Mario Ivankovits
To avoid this I'd NOT include eg viewhandler or navigation handler in the jar. Taglib wont harm if not used. Instead we just document how to setup. Mario -Original Message- From: Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, Okt 31, 2007 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [result][vote] start up

RE: Proposal to Externalize the ViewCache.

2007-10-31 Thread Danny Chen
Hi All, We like to propose an enhancement to how and where Trinidad maintains its view caches. Currently when the system is configured to use token as the state persistent method, Trinidad will maintain all component states in a ViewCache. This ViewCache is just a map that is maintained in

Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project

2007-10-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
A taglib and a faces-config in the META-INF are loaded/registered automatically. And as I already mentioned, it should be possible to use the commons utils from the core impl. Automatically loading extensions(!) is not what we want when using the myfaces core implementation. There is some stuff in

[jira] Created: (TOMAHAWK-1139) A new approach to JSF error handling

2007-10-31 Thread Val Blant (JIRA)
A new approach to JSF error handling Key: TOMAHAWK-1139 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1139 Project: MyFaces Tomahawk Issue Type: Improvement Reporter: Val Blant I

[jira] Commented: (TOMAHAWK-1139) A new approach to JSF error handling

2007-10-31 Thread Val Blant (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1139?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539215 ] Val Blant commented on TOMAHAWK-1139: - Problem description: This solution deals with JSF's error processing

[jira] Commented: (TOMAHAWK-1139) A new approach to JSF error handling

2007-10-31 Thread Val Blant (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1139?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539216 ] Val Blant commented on TOMAHAWK-1139: - The idea is as such: MDF provides more flexible message decoration by

[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (TOMAHAWK-1139) A new approach to JSF error handling

2007-10-31 Thread Val Blant (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1139?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539216 ] vace117 edited comment on TOMAHAWK-1139 at 10/31/07 4:51 PM: --- The idea is as such:

[jira] Updated: (MYFACES-1741) JSR-252 Issue 21 - Provided an additional binding attribute for the core Converter, Listener and Validator tags has wrong behaviour

2007-10-31 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1741?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Leonardo Uribe updated MYFACES-1741: Status: Patch Available (was: Open) JSR-252 Issue 21 - Provided an additional binding

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1741) JSR-252 Issue 21 - Provided an additional binding attribute for the core Converter, Listener and Validator tags has wrong behaviour

2007-10-31 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1741?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539290 ] Leonardo Uribe commented on MYFACES-1741: - After asking some questions on jsf ri dev mailing list, I

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1729) label attribute does not resolve EL expresion (JSR 252 Issue 6 related)

2007-10-31 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1729?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12539295 ] Leonardo Uribe commented on MYFACES-1729: - Fortunately there was a discussion about this on