Hi all,
About JSF 2.0 adoption, I know there's a big hype in the JSF community about
it. However, unlike1.1 and akin to 1.2, 2.0 is part of JEE and has some
dependencies on some other specifications from it. Therefore, it's unlikely
that simply dropping the jsf 2.0 jars will be enough to use 2.0,
I would tend to agree with this, but the real issue is striking a
balance between flexibility and simplicity. I know the Richclient uses
the same skinning mechanism as Trinidad (it USES Trinidad Skinning) and
the look and feels out of that renderkit are entirely different. With a
less
Andrew Robinson schrieb:
However, as Matthias pointed out, JSF 2.0 standardize Trinidad's principal
core features namely PPR and Resource handling and hopefully skinning too.
Under such circumstances, I feel that we should wait for 2.0 to be cemented
before going through a massive refactoring of
Agree with Werner's assessment on JSF2.0 adoption. The 1.2 adoption curve
shouldn't be a benchmark for 2.0 adoption.
I think 2.0, when it goes final, is going to have significant uptake. Apple
might already be using the Mojarra snapshot for one of its rebate processes:
Simon Lessard schrieb:
Hi,
The UIX issue is a very valid one indeed and so few link to it remains,
it's a shame that we didn't get rid of it already and I'm to blame a lot
for that because I started it a long time ago but was never able to
finish it.
However, as Matthias pointed out, JSF
Hazem Saleh schrieb:
I do not think adding another component library to MyFaces will be good
as well.
I dont think so either, which reminds me I have to drop the code
to the dojo stuff asap into the repository.
What I mean is following. Trinidad is huge, Oracle is going to donate
RCF which
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
also, the sandbox renderer approach sounds good so far.
However, you should ensure we don't break a lot of things
-Matthias
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon,
I am very much surprised after reading your mail. I don't have the
feeling that Trinidad is stagnating, at least we use it more and more
ourselves. And as I have no idea about the rich client I cannot
comment on that, but Trinidad development should not depend on such a
project, on the contrary.
Hi Andrew, Bruno,
the mail was pretty long, and raised some interesting points, but I
honestly don't think adding another component library to MyFaces will
help. What we should really do is consolidation - if we can work into
this direction, we will have more success as a group.
Update:
Somehow I royally messed up the Jira query and re-ran it this morning.
There are 285 issues that were either improvement, wish or new feature
requests that have been made to Trinidad.
After thinking more about this email, I should have taken a different
approach. After mulling it over
I had no a good chance to complete read you past email, since I am sick today.
Some comments inline
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Andrew Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Update:
Somehow I royally messed up the Jira query and re-ran it this morning.
There are 285 issues that were either
I think this is really want I want to get at. For me to see no
progress for over 6 months on many issues, not see people's patches
applied, etc., is disheartening. I am part to blame and should also be
helping close some of these issues.
it is all a matter of time... so why not sending more
BTW, for anyone that hasn't read this ridiculously long and dumb
thread, feel free to hit delete.
I think the best thing is for me to shut up and just start committing
fixes to the bugs that have been open for a long time instead of
making any criticism against the community.
Sorry for all the
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, for anyone that hasn't read this ridiculously long and dumb
thread, feel free to hit delete.
I think the best thing is for me to shut up and just start committing
fixes to the bugs that have been open for a long
Hi,
The UIX issue is a very valid one indeed and so few link to it remains, it's
a shame that we didn't get rid of it already and I'm to blame a lot for that
because I started it a long time ago but was never able to finish it.
However, as Matthias pointed out, JSF 2.0 standardize Trinidad's
Forgot to mention that conversation scope is getting standardized by
JSR-299, Web Beans so most of Trinidad's features are getting standardized
and personally it drains a part of my motivation to improve the existing
code for those modules knowing it might have to be re-refactored so soon.
~
However, as Matthias pointed out, JSF 2.0 standardize Trinidad's principal
core features namely PPR and Resource handling and hopefully skinning too.
Under such circumstances, I feel that we should wait for 2.0 to be cemented
before going through a massive refactoring of some of the old and
Hi Andrew,
Yes I think Adam made a wiki for UIXNode conversion during the time of
incubation, I'll have to look for the link.
As for JSF 2.0 adoption, I would say 2 years after the specification release
which is... not so soon. Implementation will start before that though and I
think it's what
I'd rather fully agree than gully agree though. :)
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Simon Lessard [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Yes I think Adam made a wiki for UIXNode conversion during the time of
incubation, I'll have to look for the link.
As for JSF 2.0 adoption, I would say 2
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Simon Lessard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Yes I think Adam made a wiki for UIXNode conversion during the time of
incubation, I'll have to look for the link.
As for JSF 2.0 adoption, I would say 2 years after the specification release
which is... not
also, the sandbox renderer approach sounds good so far.
However, you should ensure we don't break a lot of things
-Matthias
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Simon Lessard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Yes I
After working and using Trinidad for about a year now, I have noticed
that although there have been many releases, the project just doesn't
seem to be progressing. I am curious what other MyFaces members think
about this. Just by browsing JIRA, it seems that almost all the work
is done is bug
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