Re: RE: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Eric Bresie
Suppose this would go against the being different but... During setup or first start up would it be worth giving the user a select their preferred LAF dialog? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com > On January 22, 2020 at 8:04:24 PM CST, Eirik Bakke wrote: > > Currently Windows system Laf in the latest

RE: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Eirik Bakke
Regardless of LAF, it would be great to have a standardized "color-blind friendly" editor color theme available by default. Probably there would need to be one light and one dark theme. There are a couple of different types of color blindness; I'm unsure if each of these might need a separate p

RE: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Eirik Bakke
> Currently Windows system Laf in the latest JDKs 9+ (13 included) is still > totally lacking that support: the fonts and widgets (checkboxes and radios > mainly) are very ugly, FlatLaf instead of very slick! After https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1777 , most of these issues should be fi

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Mark Eggers
One of the issues that I've had with Darkula in the past is that it's not very friendly for colorblind - color deficient people. I'm red-green color deficient. This means that reds shade towards black, and greens towards white. Pinks, oranges, and reds on dark brown backgrounds are very difficult

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Matteo Di Giovinazzo
To me the main reason for using FlatLaf as the default Laf is to a way better support for HiDPI monitors. Currently Windows system Laf in the latest JDKs 9+ (13 included) is still totally lacking that support: the fonts and widgets (checkboxes and radios mainly) are very ugly, FlatLaf instead of ve

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Chuck Davis
We're talking about very, VERY subjective perspectives here. Just because there is a new fad called "flat" doesn't mean it's an improvement. Actually, "flat" looks so 1970's ish. Perhaps the fascination with it is due to the fact that most of the productive people here either weren't alive at tha

RE: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Eirik Bakke
I think FlatLAF could very well be made the default on Linux. But on Windows and MacOS, I'd argue we should use the OS-specific LAFs by default. On MacOS and Windows, we have very good existing LAFs that follow the same style as other desktop applications on the same platform. So NetBeans will l

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great! Gj On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 20:08, Boris Heithecker wrote: > We can also put the whole donation as it is within one folder and then move > the parts to the corresponding modules piece by piece. I hope I can do the > first steps on Friday or Saturday. > Boris > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 12:4

Re: 11.3-beta1 new project dialog

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It’s a beta. Not the final release, which is when those update centers will be there. Gj On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 20:25, Ernie Rael wrote: > I can file bug reports if it's time... > > - start 11.3-beta1 empty dirs, no import > - new java ant project > java app > > The biggest issue might be the t

11.3-beta1 new project dialog

2020-01-22 Thread Ernie Rael
I can file bug reports if it's time... - start 11.3-beta1 empty dirs, no import - new java ant project > java app The biggest issue might be the trouble contacting the plugin portal The dialog has a pair of checkboxes, * The nb-javac Java editing support lib * JavaFX Implementation for Windo

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Confirmed! Good catch! On 1/22/20 11:16 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 19:07, Patrik Karlström wrote: You do know that light attracts bugs? Actually, light and dark by the look of it! ;-p Can anyone replicate a problem with either FlatLAF theme? I run with all view tabs min

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Yest the Light theme is also available, however I think some coloring needs adjustment there. Though I'm not really fond of the color scheme as light there. One of our users created an editor theme according to https://www.nordtheme.com/ Probably we could include that as well... On 1/22/20

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 19:07, Patrik Karlström wrote: > You do know that light attracts bugs? Actually, light and dark by the look of it! ;-p Can anyone replicate a problem with either FlatLAF theme? I run with all view tabs minimized to the side generally so the editor area is full size (but n

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Boris Heithecker
We can also put the whole donation as it is within one folder and then move the parts to the corresponding modules piece by piece. I hope I can do the first steps on Friday or Saturday. Boris On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > That makes sense. But do we need them to be in

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Patrik Karlström
Den ons 22 jan. 2020 kl 20:04 skrev Neil C Smith : > On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 19:01, Matthias Bläsing > wrote: > > Is Flat LAF light done yet? > > Running with it now, and seems pretty good so far! Better than Metal! ;-) > > It may come as a surprise given all I've written about dark themes in > t

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 19:01, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Is Flat LAF light done yet? Running with it now, and seems pretty good so far! Better than Metal! ;-) It may come as a surprise given all I've written about dark themes in the dark distant past, but I much prefer light themes in NetBeans!

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Patrik Karlström
I would like to work on the Swedish translation of the platform, once there is a workflow and guidelines. /Patrik

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Am Mittwoch, den 22.01.2020, 18:55 + schrieb Neil C Smith: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 18:48, John Mc > wrote: > > So I started using the latest development builds and I really like > > the > > progress with the Flat Look and Feel addition for NB11.3. Great > > job to the > > guys who have done

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 18:48, John Mc wrote: > So I started using the latest development builds and I really like the > progress with the Flat Look and Feel addition for NB11.3. Great job to the > guys who have done all this work it really looks nice. Yes, +1. Looks great! Only issue I find is

Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread John Mc
Hi So I started using the latest development builds and I really like the progress with the Flat Look and Feel addition for NB11.3. Great job to the guys who have done all this work it really looks nice. Are there plans to consider making this the default LnF for NetBeans 12 onwards? Regards J

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.3-beta1 is ... available for testing !

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, I see it as the starting point for the N&N. The more we can organize the PRs into categories for the moment, the better the picture we can get -- but maybe highlight the main ones in bold or add a high level summary. Gj On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:03 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Would this

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.3-beta1 is ... available for testing !

2020-01-22 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Would this one be a somewhat organized list of changes or rather a New and Noteworthy? As we put great effort and a number of PR-s into FlatLaf and Code cleanup, though they would be 1-2 item on the noteworthy page. On 1/22/20 2:37 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Thanks. Started updating the W

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
That makes sense. But do we need them to be in modules or simply exactly as they are from the donation within one folder in the netbeans-tools repo? Gj On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:23 PM Boris Heithecker wrote: > Okay, I'm again where I was 6 months ago... > Of course, the files I integrate into

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Boris Heithecker
Okay, I'm again where I was 6 months ago... Of course, the files I integrate into my module have been changed, so they can't be moved as such to an Apache repository. If verification is crucial, I suggest to proceed as follows: I'll remove the donated files from my module and submit only a module s

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.3-beta1 is ... available for testing !

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks. Started updating the Wiki accordingly: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.3 Anyone, feel free to step in and add the items from the area that you worked on. Gj On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:24 AM Eric Barboni wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > I think the lin

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Before this is merged one crucial point: The new files must be verifiable come from the donation zip. If that is not the case we will not be able to establish correct license handling. Am 22. Januar 2020 09:46:11 MEZ schrieb Geertjan Wielenga : >Clone that repo, push your content to your clone,

AW: NetBeans API for projects lifecycle

2020-01-22 Thread Christian Lenz
Hey Alex, atm not, sry. I just needed to listen for the debug session 😊. But when I figure it out, I will let you know. Cheers Chris Von: Alessandro Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 10:45 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: NetBeans API for projects lifecycle Hi Chris, the Debugg

Re: NetBeans API for projects lifecycle

2020-01-22 Thread Alessandro
Hi Chris, the DebuggerManager API allows to listen for start/stop debug project events just fine. Do you, or anyone, know how to listen to start/stop run project events too? Thank you in advance. Regards, Alex Il giorno mar 21 gen 2020 alle ore 16:41 Alessandro ha scritto: > Thanks Chris, >

RE: Apache NetBeans 11.3-beta1 is ... available for testing !

2020-01-22 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi Geertjan, I think the link is the following: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestone/4?closed=1 Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Geertjan Wielenga Envoyé : mercredi 22 janvier 2020 09:09 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: Apache NetBeans 11.3-beta1 is ... availa

Re: NetBeans language bundle

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Clone that repo, push your content to your clone, make a PR for it, and I'll merge it. I think like that we can quickly have the content we want to work on and via PRs we can make the license changes and anything else needed. Gj On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:31 AM Boris Heithecker wrote: > No, no

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.3-beta1 is ... available for testing !

2020-01-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great! I’ll be happy to provide a draft of the 11.3 release notes on the Wiki you created, if you can provide a link to all completed PRs in the 11.3 timeframe. Gj On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 02:50, Kai Uwe Pel wrote: > Well noted with thanks, Eric! > > Regards, > Kai > > > On 1/22/2020 2:35 AM, Er