Re: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

Well, your proposal is actually putting additional work both on who wants to move forward and who wants to support Java 8 runtime. Also how would it look like wne Java 17, 21 would be the base? I would like to avoid having codes in the ide like this one: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/7f8d

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

> With all due respect, that's not an "alternative". It took me two I believe my proposal is a real alternative and it is a way to move us forward while not giving up on what makes NetBeans Platform unique - while not giving up on backward compatibility. > reads to distinguish it from the stat

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 El martes, 11 de abril de 2023 10:16:31 (CEST) Neil C Smith escribió: > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11

RE: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 binding As I want the indexer 7xxx with more speed and beeing stuck in 8 prevent the PR merge Eric -Message d'origine- De : Christian Oyarzun Envoyé : mardi 11 avril 2023 18:42 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8) +1 Sen

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Michael Bien wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > -mbien > >> On 11.04.23 10:16, Neil C Smith wrote: >> # Proposed policy >> >> * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the >> platform on JDK 8. >> >> * From Apache NetBe

[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans VSCode Extension 17.0.301

Dear community, let's update the Apache NetBeans Language Server extension on VSCode Marketplace with improved version 17.0.301 mostly in LSP/VSCode code. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-vscode-ext/17.0.301/

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 (binding) -mbien On 11.04.23 10:16, Neil C Smith wrote: # Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. * Future releases will

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:17 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. > > * Future rel

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 Le mar. 11 avr. 2023, 10:17, Neil C Smith a écrit : > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. > > * Future rel

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1  (non-binding) On 11/04/2023 09:16, Neil C Smith wrote: # Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. * Future releases will

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 binding On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 1:47 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. > > * Futu

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 John Neffenger On 4/11/23 1:16 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: # Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. * Future releases will

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1  (non-binding) Regards Kai On 4/11/2023 10:16 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: # Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. * Future

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 (binding) On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 6:08 AM Brad Walker wrote: > +1 > > -brad walker > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:23 AM Neil C Smith > wrote: > > > # Proposed policy > > > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > > platform on JDK 8. > > > > * From Apache NetBe

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 -brad walker On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:23 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. >

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

Yes, they're loading a ton of org.netbeans.modules.cnd modules, which may be keeping them on older versions of NetBeans Platform, meaning that they can't move to later JDKs anyway. Gj On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:19 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 13:07, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 13:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > INFO [org.netbeans.core.startup.NbEvents]: Turning on modules: > org.openide.util.lookup [8.25.1 20221005-cd0c929e4999] Thanks. Old style spec versions (although more recently compiled!) So that module is currently 8.54. I think it was 8.

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

INFO [org.netbeans.core.startup.NbEvents]: Turning on modules: org.openide.util.lookup [8.25.1 20221005-cd0c929e4999] org.openide.util [8.39.1 20221005-cd0c929e4999] org.openide.modules [7.43.1 20221005-cd0c929e4999] org.netbeans.api.annotations.common/1 [1.24.1 20221005-cd0c929e4999] org.openide.f

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 12:43, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > To Karl's question -- the cool new look and feels are not included in > the latest Microchip MPLAB X IDE, so it's quite an old version of the > NetBeans Platform, ... Not necessarily. You have to actively opt in to those. I implemented as

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

I'd say those that are arguing for JDK 8 are representing the traditional NetBeans focus on compatibility and supporting the full range of Java LTS versions. However, unless they step in to actively work on that with others, that is not sustainable given the sheer number and pace of Java releases

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

On 4/11/23 05:55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Well, what we're trying to do here is keep the whole project together > and not branch, which comes down to forking. When there's an irreconcilable argument about the direction of a project, it's the only solution. My hope is that the JDK8 gang will see

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

Can you see in the installed MPLAB app what NetBeans Platform version they use? Karl On 11.04.2023 13:02, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: I download and installed MPLAB X IDE by Microchip today, probably one of the most widely used NetBeans Platform applications, where I see this: Product Version:

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

I download and installed MPLAB X IDE by Microchip today, probably one of the most widely used NetBeans Platform applications, where I see this: Product Version: MPLAB X IDE v6.05 Updates: Updates available Java: 1.8.0_345; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 25.345-b01 Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 1.

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

Well, what we're trying to do here is keep the whole project together and not branch, which comes down to forking. Gj On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:19 PM Glenn Holmer wrote: > > On 4/10/23 10:19, László Kishalmi wrote: > > There is a way to support old software, and that is called branching. > > It

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

On 4/10/23 10:19, László Kishalmi wrote: > There is a way to support old software, and that is called branching. > It is that simple. If the JDK8 gang had the courage of their convictions, they'd have forked by now instead of pulling the whole project down. They could call it DeadBeans. -- Glenn

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

On 4/11/23 03:16, Neil C Smith wrote: > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. +1 (binding) -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #166

RE: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil C Smith Verzonden: dinsdag 11 april 2023 10:17 Aan: dev Onderwerp: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8) # Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache N

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 On 11.04.2023 10:16, Neil C Smith wrote: # Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. * Future releases will take an "LTS-1

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:13 AM Alexander Kronenwett wrote: > > +1 > > Neil C Smith schrieb am Di., 11. Apr. 2023, 10:17: > > > # Proposed policy > > > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > > platform on JDK 8. > > > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 Neil C Smith schrieb am Di., 11. Apr. 2023, 10:17: > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. > > * Future rele

Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

+1 (Binding) On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 09:17, Neil C Smith wrote: > # Proposed policy > > * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the > platform on JDK 8. > > * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run > the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. > > * Fu

[VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

# Proposed policy * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the platform on JDK 8. * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run the IDE or platform will be JDK 11. * Future releases will take an "LTS-1" strategy for building and running (and CI test

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 07:41, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Could a consensus solution be that for all JDK 8 - compatibility > related items, any/all work related to that, we assign those issues to > Svata -- and we try this for one release and see how that goes? If it > fails, then in the release af