Re: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2024-03-14 Thread Chuck Davis
Keep using the version of Netbeans you are using. There's no "rush" for you to upgrade. That said, however, the "rush" to get off JDK 8 is speed and features. JDK 8 is not capable of many of the current features of JDK 21. To expect the developers to remain stuck in past decades and to not use

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-05 Thread Chuck Davis
Niel's proposal is at least 3 years over due. What needs to be remembered is that Netbeans does not time-outthe license does not expire, etc. People who need to work with JDK8 can do so into eternity by keeping a JDK8 version of netbeans. This machine I am writing on has 11 versions of Netbea

Re: "Java class libray" with maven (was: Re: [NOTICE] Apache NetBeans 13 release candidate 1 available for testing)

2022-01-21 Thread Chuck Davis
, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:41 AM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Am Freitag, dem 21.01.2022 um 06:46 -0800 schrieb Chuck Davis: > > Am I the only one who wants to create a Java class library with > > Maven? > > I see it can be done with Ant or Gradle but not Mavenstill.

Re: [NOTICE] Apache NetBeans 13 release candidate 1 available for testing

2022-01-21 Thread Chuck Davis
Am I the only one who wants to create a Java class library with Maven? I see it can be done with Ant or Gradle but not Mavenstill. My only experience with Gradle is with Android Studio and it (Studio with Gradle/Kotlin) is a disaster area. I hope we're not headed that direction. On Fri, Jan

Re: Pull the plug from Java 8 in 12.1?

2020-02-26 Thread Chuck Davis
A decision long over-due. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:13 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from > 12.1 and on? > > Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding that we have issues > with nb-javac from time to time.

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-16 Thread Chuck Davis
I KNEW if I touched it I would blow up the whole thing. I looked at the page to see it it had changed this a.m. It changed alright but not for the better I fear. It seriously needs your attention (spell that "fix") again, Geertjan! Or somebody else who knows what they're doing. I don't see the

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-15 Thread Chuck Davis
wrote: > Can you point to the page where you would like the YouTube clip to be > listed? > > As you do that, notice the link at the bottom of the page for getting to > the source of the page. Then edit the page online and prove your PR. > > Gj > > On Sat, 15 Feb 2

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-15 Thread Chuck Davis
Gj > > On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 23:37, Chuck Davis wrote: > > > Geertjan, why not put a link to that on the netbeans page as a JFX > > tutorial? That would save a number of people a lot of time searching for > > help. > > > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-15 Thread Chuck Davis
15 Feb 2020 at 22:43, Neil C Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 21:27, Chuck Davis wrote: > > > Neil, can you provide a link or a description how to get to the #3 you > > > mention? I think you're referencing some resource about which I'm > > ignora

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-15 Thread Chuck Davis
Oh, ok. Thanks. They aren't numbered so I got confused. On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 1:43 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 21:27, Chuck Davis wrote: > > Neil, can you provide a link or a description how to get to the #3 you > > mention? I think you're

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-15 Thread Chuck Davis
Neil, can you provide a link or a description how to get to the #3 you mention? I think you're referencing some resource about which I'm ignorant at the moment. Thanks. > > With the Maven archetypes, while it's somewhat annoying it doesn't > work with the default run action, it's only a case of

Re: Re: "Using an IDE" Page outdated (Openjfx)

2020-02-15 Thread Chuck Davis
I think this is a much better resource for JavaFX. https://openjfx.io/openjfx-docs/ It would also be nice to have a tutorial @ netbeans.apache.org in the "learn" section. Netbeans can, at last, create a FX project that compiles. It does not yet create an environment that will "run" it by defaul

Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default?

2020-01-22 Thread Chuck Davis
We're talking about very, VERY subjective perspectives here. Just because there is a new fad called "flat" doesn't mean it's an improvement. Actually, "flat" looks so 1970's ish. Perhaps the fascination with it is due to the fact that most of the productive people here either weren't alive at tha

Re: Cloud Based NetBeans

2019-11-24 Thread Chuck Davis
Well put, Scott. I have used quite a few web applications. They all suck. Either a browser cannot provide a decent interface for applications or nobody has yet figured out how to do it. Browsers are great for displaying information and downloading files but they are a reprehensible invention fo

Re: 11.2 beta 3

2019-10-18 Thread Chuck Davis
I can't recall if this worked differently before but I think it did. If I refactor a class by moving from one package to another it does not update the package definition within the class. It does highlight it as an error and the fix is on the pop-up menu but I thought refactoring did that automa

Re: using JavaFX as a HTML renderer

2019-10-01 Thread Chuck Davis
Thanks for the explanation, Matthias. JavaFX appears to make adding help to an application quite simple -- when I get to that phase. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:12 AM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Am Sonntag, den 29.09.2019, 04:34 -0700 schrieb Chuck Davis: > > Matthi

Re: using JavaFX as a HTML renderer

2019-09-30 Thread Chuck Davis
Hi Scott: I responded off-list as well since this is a bit off topic. I was just wondering how using HTML in JFX was working for Matthias since we no longer have JavaHelp available to NB development. Yes, using JFX in NB development is quite nice. Getting it to run outside the IDE is another wo

Re: using JavaFX as a HTML renderer

2019-09-29 Thread Chuck Davis
Matthias, is your use case possibly displaying help for your application? I ask because I'm thinking of attempting this in my app. The "modern" approach to have help in an external browser is really, really annoying. P. S. It's really easy to develop with JFX (and getting better). Distribution/p

Re: JavaFx WindowManager

2019-09-29 Thread Chuck Davis
Well, everything got screwed-up between JDK8 and JDK9++, Patrick. I'm not always sure the "progress" was progress. It would certainly be nice if FX were still part of the JDK. Here's hoping WorkbenchFX works for you. On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 1:31 AM Patrik Karlström wrote: > Thanks for your in

Re: JavaFx WindowManager

2019-09-28 Thread Chuck Davis
Partick, I've been waiting for somebody more knowledgeable to speak up but here goes. Based on previous conversations on this list and elsewhere, there is not going to be a JFX based NB WindowManager anytime soon. Experiments have been done but the effort is exhaustive. If you need JFX in a net

Re: What to do with JavaFX and OpenJFX?

2019-08-25 Thread Chuck Davis
At the pace Java is moving no reasonable person would expect ANYTHING based upon Java to forever be backwardly compatible. In my not so humble opinion we need a clean break occasionally where we say the current Java environment requires new capabilities in the IDE and version x.x will no longer wo