Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-11 Thread Neil C Smith
Thanks Matthias for kicking off the votes on the revised artefacts. I've updated both WIP pull requests, which will build a dev-build with the newly staged binaries as well as tests. I want to double-check on the M1 mac that everything is working before voting, but everything else looks good.

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-10 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 at 15:48, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 04.10.2023 um 20:44 +0100 schrieb Neil C Smith: > > If the vote doesn't pass then someone else will need to do the > > various PRs (I'm tied up most of next week), or we delay freeze, or > > we have another release without

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-08 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Neil, Am Mittwoch, dem 04.10.2023 um 20:44 +0100 schrieb Neil C Smith: > If the vote doesn't pass then someone else will need to do the > various PRs (I'm tied up most of next week), or we delay freeze, or > we have another release without Apple Silicon support? I'm willing to give releasing

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-06 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, so being constructive about this, I put this together: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6539 I think my concerns are addressed by that. Greetings Matthias Am Mittwoch, dem 04.10.2023 um 20:44 +0100 schrieb Neil C Smith: > On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, 20:07 Matthias Bläsing, > wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-05 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, 21:23 Laszlo Kishalmi, wrote: > > On 10/5/23 12:57, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, 19:51 Laszlo Kishalmi, > > wrote: > > > >> Just a question, as the vote has been pulled off. > >> > >> Is it possible to create the binaries cross compile the profiler library >

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-05 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
On 10/5/23 12:57, Neil C Smith wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, 19:51 Laszlo Kishalmi, wrote: Just a question, as the vote has been pulled off. Is it possible to create the binaries cross compile the profiler library on Linux? Not sure. No or with difficulty maybe. What problem would that

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-05 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, 19:51 Laszlo Kishalmi, wrote: > Just a question, as the vote has been pulled off. > > Is it possible to create the binaries cross compile the profiler library > on Linux? > Not sure. No or with difficulty maybe. What problem would that solve though? Do we expect everyone

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-05 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Just a question, as the vote has been pulled off. Is it possible to create the binaries cross compile the profiler library on Linux? On 9/27/23 03:54, Neil C Smith wrote: Hi, The lack of native binaries supporting Apple Silicon (eg. profiler and terminal) is becoming more and more of an

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-04 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, 20:07 Matthias Bläsing, wrote: > I was asked to reply here: > > I'm irritated, that votes are called for packages, that violate Apache > Release requirements (at least to my understanding). > > I will not vote on dlight.nativeexecution as I assume the reaction will > also be

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-10-04 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, I was asked to reply here: I'm irritated, that votes are called for packages, that violate Apache Release requirements (at least to my understanding). I will not vote on dlight.nativeexecution as I assume the reaction will also be just a shrug. The question that remains: Why call a vote

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-29 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 12:19, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > I am doing all my open source and home projects on macOS, which is the only > home computer brand I have (no Win in my home), but for the moment I don't > have yet a Silicon. If I can help, please let me know and Yes I definitely > wish

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-28 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
I am doing all my open source and home projects on macOS, which is the only home computer brand I have (no Win in my home), but for the moment I don't have yet a Silicon. If I can help, please let me know and Yes I definitely wish that NB has a future on macOS ;-) Cheers, JM On Wed, Sep 27,

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 27 Sept 2023, 21:37 Michael Bien, wrote: > > Publishing binaries via Maven doesn't seem viable for this given > > cross-OS build needed, so possibly looking at dist.a.o instead. > (I assume you mean maven central the repo and not mvn the build system) > Out of curiosity, why is it a

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Michael Bien
Hi, On 27.09.23 12:54, Neil C Smith wrote: The workflow appears to be missing a source bundle that we could use for voting purposes, ... Its a bit unfortunate that we have to set up releases for something what is only consumed by NB. I feel this project has enough to do during release

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 13:35, Neil C Smith wrote: the generate headers section of each build - > I assume we could check the headers into a separate repo? But I don't > think we gain much by doing so, rather than adding a pre-build stage > on the existing workflow to build a source bundle.

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Josh Juneau
I just recently received an M2 and it is not my everyday use machine yet. I can perform some testing using this device. Thanks, Josh Juneau On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 7:44 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 12:41, Tamás Cservenák > wrote: > > Just my 5 cents: in Maven the mvnd

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 12:41, Tamás Cservenák wrote: > Just my 5 cents: in Maven the mvnd project does deliver mac silicon binary, > and it works nicely. And the release binaries are built with GH workflow? Any concerns raised / problems doing so? > Also, if needed, I can offer my M2 macMini

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 12:33, Eric Barboni wrote: > But I thing we should tesselate the repo for thoose native stuff and make > release that we later use on netbeans main repo. > Maven was a choice to simplify release process but may not be compatible > with macos. I was in favour of a

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Just my 5 cents: in Maven the mvnd project does deliver mac silicon binary, and it works nicely. Also, if needed, I can offer my M2 macMini for testing/developing (ie. shared via tailscale) if needed, as it is not my daily driver, mainly just sits in a drawer. Thanks T On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at

Re: [DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi, I cannot use macos. Not having this kind of box. But I thing we should tesselate the repo for thoose native stuff and make release that we later use on netbeans main repo. Maven was a choice to simplify release process but may not be compatible with macos. I cannot recall but I think

[DISCUSS] Native binary handling (or, does NetBeans have a future on macOS?)

2023-09-27 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, The lack of native binaries supporting Apple Silicon (eg. profiler and terminal) is becoming more and more of an issue, and costing us users. I assume that is something we wish to address?! And incidentally, while we're at it, if you're a NetBeans PMC member or committer using it on macOS