Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-23 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 20:52, antonio wrote: > If you bundle GPL2+CPE files together the result _must_ be GPL2+CPE. > From the GPL2+CPE, 2.b) [1] Well, you could remove the +CPE - another part of the problem. > As far as I understand the situation, it seems it's not clear that all > files (the

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-22 Thread antonio
Hi, If you bundle GPL2+CPE files together the result _must_ be GPL2+CPE. From the GPL2+CPE, 2.b) [1] b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-22 Thread Ernie Rael
On 4/22/2021 11:01 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 16:48, Ernie Rael wrote: Neil, I'm wondering what your take is on the question that started off this discussion. If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into a jar and put it in maven central

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 16:48, Ernie Rael wrote: > Neil, I'm wondering what your take is on the question that started off > this discussion. > > If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those > into a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? With usua

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-22 Thread Ernie Rael
Neil, I'm wondering what your take is on the question that started off this discussion. If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? -ernie On 4/21/2021 1:38 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, 21:28 Ernie Rael, wrote: > > So in your humble (ie non-lawyer) opinion, you might change your vote if > someone (not necessarily from Oracle) made an unambiguous statement in > the artifact that all the files are CPE. (vote reference independent of > any technical issues) >

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, 21:12 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote: > Does it help that all the files making up nb-javac, when scanned for CPE, > only the files that will not end up in the JAR are not covered by CPE? > Since a PMC should be fully capable of reading and understanding a simple > list of condition

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Ernie Rael
On 4/21/2021 1:04 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2021, 11:01 -0700 schrieb Ernie Rael: If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? everytime a license question comes up, the only r

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 10:04 PM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi, > > Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2021, 11:01 -0700 schrieb Ernie Rael: > > If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into > > a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? > > everytime a license que

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2021, 11:01 -0700 schrieb Ernie Rael: > If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into > a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? everytime a license question comes up, the only right answer is: Ask _your_ lawyer (and be pr

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Ernie Rael
IANAL. If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? It's too bad the question asked at the end of https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues/LEGAL-563 was not answered. It looks like we've go