Re: RE: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-23 Thread Will Hartung
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:06 AM Eric Bresie wrote: > Just to understand the problem being discussed > > There are Netbeans wrapper plugins (I.e. Netbeans specific artifacts) like > the JavaFX or Java EE plugins > These plug-ins have dependencies on third party libraries which (possibly > dependin

Re: RE: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-23 Thread Eric Bresie
ards > Eric > > > > -Message d'origine- > De : Sean Carrick mailto:s...@pekinsoft.com)> > Envoyé : jeudi 22 avril 2021 21:11 > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org (mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org) > Objet : Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes > >

RE: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-23 Thread Eric Barboni
ssage d'origine- De : Sean Carrick Envoyé : jeudi 22 avril 2021 21:11 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes Will, When looking for old source from websites that are no longer around, I usually have pretty good luck on The Wayback Machine (ht

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Sean Carrick
Will, When looking for old source from websites that are no longer around, I usually have pretty good luck on The Wayback Machine (http://web.archive.org). -SC On 4/22/21 11:26 AM, Will Hartung wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 8:50 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > >> Probably the archetypes are

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
In that case, makes sense to recreate the Maven archetypes and publish them to Maven Central. Gj On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 6:27 PM Will Hartung wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 8:50 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > Probably the archetypes are open source and you'd provide pull requests > to >

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Will Hartung
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 8:50 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Probably the archetypes are open source and you'd provide pull requests to > them. > The problem is that the ones we used in the past have vanished. That's why the NB 8.x wizards are failing, the archetypes were hosted by codehaus, and t

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Probably the archetypes are open source and you'd provide pull requests to them. Gj On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 5:37 PM Will Hartung wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 7:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > There's so much we don't own. We integrate. Yes, that has disadvantages, > > but also the a

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Will Hartung
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 7:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > There's so much we don't own. We integrate. Yes, that has disadvantages, > but also the advantage that we can help users with actually existing, e.g., > Maven archetypes, rather than those made specifically for NetBeans. > > On the other

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Svata Dedic
BTW - looking at the JavaFX archetype resources[1], there's javafx-maven-plugin configured ... ... which could nicely plug into https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5394 that will be probably implemented. Additional action mappings would be then activated by e.g. plugin presence in

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
There's so much we don't own. We integrate. Yes, that has disadvantages, but also the advantage that we can help users with actually existing, e.g., Maven archetypes, rather than those made specifically for NetBeans. On the other hand, there's nothing stopping anyone from providing pull requests f

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Will Hartung
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:39 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Indeed, if there's a particular technology that isn't supported correctly > in NetBeans or is outdated, just create an issue and let's work on it. > > Can we do that, point to a specific problem that needs to be fixed? > I would take a

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 10:26, Johan Vos wrote: > If this can be made easier if the archetype has a nbactions.xml that is not > causing regression for other IDE's or CLI, I think we should consider it, Short term that would be great. The last time this came up, Jaroslav sent me an off-list reply

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-22 Thread Johan Vos
Talking about the OpenJFX specifically case: I am personally open to make it as easy as possible to leverage the openjfx javafx-maven-artifact in NetBeans. Actually, it is the main procedure I use whenever I create a new JavaFX project: create a new project from an archetype, specify the org.openjf

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
NetBeans is full of references and usages of third party technologies. Indeed, if there's a particular technology that isn't supported correctly in NetBeans or is outdated, just create an issue and let's work on it. Can we do that, point to a specific problem that needs to be fixed? Gj On Thu,

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Will Hartung
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:22 PM Ernie Rael wrote: > The point is that depending on a 3rd party project for functionality > that NetBeans provides is a problem. But there is push back to provide > even simple maven archetypes. And, at least possibly until now, little > interest in supplying arche

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Ernie Rael
IMHO, NB should "own" that archetype, publish, and maintain it Couldn't agree more. But here's one case study that shows some of the problems that might be faced. When I fixed javafx-maven to "run/debug out of the box", I created a very small independent (not a fork) github project for java