Re: [Mentors] Status of incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html

2018-06-17 Thread Mark Struberg
Not quite sure if this thread is still active, but depending on project size it would probably make sense to differentiate already during incubation. As Bertrand already explained, the final PMC of the top level project (TLP) will be defined by the community voting on the graduation proposal. Bu

Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform

2018-06-17 Thread Dmitry Avtonomov
Antonio, Thanks for adding these videos to the website! Could you please also copy it to pages other than "Get help"? "Get help" to me sounds like a place where you go if your new installation of Netbeans doesn't want to start or something. Maybe "Documentation", or "For developers". I'd also vouch

Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform

2018-06-17 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks all for appreciating the series -- and I really meant it when I said I see this as community-driven, so, anyone can suggest other topics or create their own similar YouTube clips to add to the series. Gj On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Dmitry Avtonomov < dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wro

Re: [Mentors] Status of incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html

2018-06-17 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks for the further details on this point. At this stage, when we start a vote thread (i.e., in the private mailing list, so only those who are already voted on get to see and respond to the vote threads), we always start off the thread with "I would like to nominate X to become NetBeans committ

Re: [Mentors] Status of incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html

2018-06-17 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
But, I think, when we become a top level project, we should ask each individual person who is a committer/PPMC member about how seriously they'll be involved in the top level project -- i.e., it's very clear, for example, that there are people who are leading this project right now, and there's abo

Re: Questions about contributing code and developing on top of Platform 9.0

2018-06-17 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi Gary, Interesting -- would you like to make a short YouTube clip about that scenario, to be added to the series? Would be really cool. Gj On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Gary Bello wrote: > I debug netbeans by adding to etc/netbeans.conf netbeans_default_options > string > -J-agentlib:j

Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform

2018-06-17 Thread Antonio
+1 to add the videos to multiple places. Maybe you want to submit a pull request with those modifications and enhancements? Thanks, Antonio On 17/06/18 10:29, Dmitry Avtonomov wrote: Antonio, Thanks for adding these videos to the website! Could you please also copy it to pages other than "Ge

Re: [Mentors] Status of incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html

2018-06-17 Thread Mark Struberg
Probably only having 10 PMC members might be a little low with such a big and (hopefully) diverse project. But I see you get the point. Those who are active and interested in helping to steer the project will be made PMC members. Just a few general thoughts: Regardless whether in IT or in manag

Re: What is nbbuild/licenses/ for? Too many files there.

2018-06-17 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Emilian, Am Samstag, den 16.06.2018, 02:38 -0400 schrieb Emilian Bold: > I think we are starting to have too many files in nbbuild/licenses/ > > The way I understand it, inside $module/external/$somelib-license.txt > we have the actual license of the external dependency and we add a > header

Re: What is nbbuild/licenses/ for? Too many files there.

2018-06-17 Thread Emilian Bold
But the 'License:' header already represents a 'family'. That's why MIT-validator should not exist in nbbuild/licenses: it's just the plain MIT license with a particular author. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 17 June 2018 9:14 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi Emilian, > > Am Sams

[Mentors] Re: What is nbbuild/licenses/ for? Too many files there.

2018-06-17 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 17.06.2018, 14:57 -0400 schrieb Emilian Bold: > But the 'License:' header already represents a 'family'. That's why > MIT-validator should not exist in nbbuild/licenses: it's just the > plain MIT license with a particular author. beware! The file from licenses is used for the

Re: [Mentors] Re: What is nbbuild/licenses/ for? Too many files there.

2018-06-17 Thread Emilian Bold
1. The files in external/*-license.txt have everything we need. They also have the 'License:' header. I don't know why the files from nbbuild/licenses are used for the summary when we could use the files from external dependencies -license.txt. 2. MIT might be special, but nbbuild/licenses/BSD-

Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform

2018-06-17 Thread Dmitry Avtonomov
Oh, I didn't know that the website also accepted public pull requests. Where do I report issues about the website? Followed the instructions, got errors from asciidoctor during the initial baking step: ``` $ ./gradlew preprocessContent bake ... Starting a Gradle Daemon (subsequent builds will be

Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform

2018-06-17 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You don't need to do any of that. Just click 'See this page in github' at the bottom of any page and create a pull request there, live in the browser. Gj On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov < dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh, I didn't know that the website also accepted pu

Re: [Mentors] Re: What is nbbuild/licenses/ for? Too many files there.

2018-06-17 Thread Tim Boudreau
> The way I see it nbbuild/licenses are 'families'. And the 'License:' > header in external/*-license.txt points to a family. A changing author line > doesn't change the license itself / the license family. > You and I are not the target audience for it - lawyers are. If that's what gets combined

Re: [Mentors] Re: What is nbbuild/licenses/ for? Too many files there.

2018-06-17 Thread Emilian Bold
There is a mix of concerns here and we are talking about different things. It's quite possible that we end up doing mistakes during our IP clearance so if a super-defensive company wants to use NetBeans they might as well decide to re-do the IP clearance themselves. If our template license file

Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform

2018-06-17 Thread Antonio
Some comments inlined below. On 17/06/18 22:36, Dmitry Avtonomov wrote: Oh, I didn't know that the website also accepted public pull requests. Well, of course. This is an open source project after all :-) Where do I report issues about the website? Followed the instructions, got errors from