Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread David E. Jones
NOTE: This thread is mean to cover topics/objectives for the conference only. For information about registration please contact me directly. The Developers Conference starts one week from today, so I guess it's about time to start getting a final list of objectives put together. A numbe

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread Adrian Crum
I'm sure everyone knows what my answer is... UI Refactoring - removing embedded styling from markup. I like the idea of including those who want to participate but can't be physically present. The more hands we have coding, the more we can get done. -Adrian David E. Jones wrote: NOTE: Th

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread Al Byers
David, Is Andrew Z going to be there? Will work on the content management system be a suitable topic? If not I would like to work on automated testing or project management. The work that Andrew Sykes did on integrating Selenium with OFBiz is quite impressive ( https://issues.apache.org/jira/brow

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread Tim Ruppert
Andrew Z will be there for the second half of the week. My list would look like 1. Automated testing (thanks Mr. Sykes for your work done on this) 2. Content management 3. Ajax and Dojo - specifically for helping make the admin tools work more easily for clients Cheers, TIm -- Tim Ruppert Ho

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread Brett Palmer
My vote would be the ofbiz test framework if someone is going to be there to lead it. I can only attend Friday, but I will be active on the mailing list and getting updates from subversion throughout the week. I think we could get a lot done in a week of concentrated effort. Brett On 2/26/07,

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread Al Byers
Tim, Do you know what content management topics would be tackled? Do you happen to know when Andrew will arrive? Wed or Thu? -Al On 2/26/07, Tim Ruppert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew Z will be there for the second half of the week. My list would look like 1. Automated testing (thanks Mr

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-26 Thread Tim Ruppert
Andrew arrives on Wednesday. As for the topics tackled on CMS - I would say we'd start with what Andrew contributed last week and building out functionality that would get us closer to something rivaling Drupal, Joomla, etc. Currently, attached to a WebSite, you can add pages, with can p

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-27 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Unfortunately I'm not in the condition to participate to the conference, however since you ask for brainstorming here is my list: 1) implement printing/document distribution features (bulk printing, print queues, print status management etc...) 2) set up the framework and PoC for datewarehouse

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-27 Thread Joe Eckard
Maybe we could use the freenode #ofbiz channel to bring more people in for the conference... if not for day-to-day use then maybe for a few scheduled recaps or Q&A sessions? -Joe On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Unfortunately I'm not in the condition to participate to t

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-27 Thread Tim Ruppert
That's not a bad idea at all Joe. I few of us are pretty much on there all the time anyways. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Joe Eckard wrote: Maybe we could use the freenode #ofbiz channel to bri

RE: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-28 Thread Amit Shinde
rom: David E. Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:08 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week! NOTE: This thread is mean to cover topics/objectives for the conference only. For information about registr

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-28 Thread Ray Barlow
Personally I think it is very much time for automated testing to take hold of this project. It's all to easy for a small change to dangerously ripple through without it being picked up straight away and with the increased interest and developers across the community the amount of time saved could b

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sykes
Al, Thanks for the vote of confidence on Selenium, and generally for keeping this effort alive, very much appreciated - I'm getting a bit maxed out, so struggling to keep it going. My plan - for what it's worth, was to write an auto-install for Selenium to work around licensing of some of the lib

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-28 Thread Al Byers
Andrew, Others may feel differently, but I thought it was sufficiently easy to install and, to be honest, lowering the bar for newbies is not one of my biggest priorities. I think it is more important to make it easier for developers to write tests and so I would like to throw open the question o

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-28 Thread Al Byers
David, This is slightly OT, but this is where people are reading on the conf. There is not all that much to do in Ephraim, but I was wondering how close or far interesting hikes or walks would be. I would suggest that anyone who is interested bring a pair of good hiking or walking shoes. That is

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-02-28 Thread David E. Jones
There are good places to walk nearby here, but this time of year the hills and mountains are either snowy or muddy... Actually, according to the weather forecast the temperatures look pretty nice next week, like high 40's and low 50's, in the valley at least. If anyone wants to drive a bi

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sykes
Al, Writing tests with Selenium is particularly easy if you install the SeleniumIDE (for FireFox). Writing a test is then as simple a clicking record. The "Run Service" addition does allow you to add results to the session and then populate the next "Run Service" with them. In conjunction with Se

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-03-01 Thread Al Byers
Andrew, I agree that those are good reasons to automate the install. But to be honest again, you seem to know what needs to be done and are probably the best person to do it :0) Maybe I can help outside of the conference. I will sit in on the testing group early in the week, but will be transitio

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-03-01 Thread Al Byers
Andrew, I meant to ask if you had come across this means for turning Selenium into a load testing tool: http://ez.no/community/articles/testing_ez_publish_with_selenium/performance_testing -Al On 3/1/07, Al Byers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew, I agree that those are good reasons to autom

Re: Brainstorming Thread: Objectives for Developers Conference - Next Week!

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sykes
Al, That's an interesting article and selenium-goto sounds like a useful addition, although we do already have some of this flexibility by just wrapping a chunk of tests in an ftl loop - although you can imagine how that could quickly get out of hand! The only thing that seems odd to me is the id