RE: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
or checking. Despite the sane class wrapping, there could potentially be multiple Profile instances constructed on the same ProfileName string. Then thread synchronization could still be needed, assuming osl_openProfile succeeds under those conditions. > -Original Message- > From: D

RE: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
need to do some grep work to find out where the osl/profile.h, oslProfileOption type, oslProfile type, and profile operation references are found. > Patricia > > > On 2/29/2016 11:02 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > Patricia, > > > > Take a look at main/sal/inc/osl/pro

[RISKS?] Dependability Issues with the AOO Code?

2016-03-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
be so favorable in our case, absent a systematic approach to AOO maintenance, especially around dependability problems. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and request

Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-02-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
e, we should prune it from trunk and source releases. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 20:57 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the learning curve > > >

New Committer: Jon Peli Oleaga (jpoleaga)

2016-02-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC AOO PMC] The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to announced that Jon Peli Oleaga (jpoleaga) has accepted our invitation to become a committer on the Apache OpenOffice project. A warm welcome to Jon Peli Oleaga. Regards, Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of the

RE: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven

2016-02-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on your timing. Your switching to a personal distribution is also a good fall-back approach. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 15:51 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release

New Committer: Patricia Shanahan (pats)

2016-02-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC AOO PMC] The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to announced that Patricia Shanahan (pats) has accepted our invitation to become a committer on the Apache OpenOffice project. A warm welcome to Patricia Shanahan. Regards, Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of th

RE: [DISCUSS] Documentation comments

2016-02-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The answer appears to be "yes and no". This page is the top level of some considerable in-code format and documentation practices: . (Hat tip to j.nitschke for pointing me to these.) Documentation codes are treated at

RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve

2016-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I sympathize with Pedro's observation. Meanwhile, although I am not an expert, I could stand to buddy up on the following profile-related situation: . If I had to name one absolutely critical situation it has to do with AOO release engineering.

Apache OpenOffice Report from the Approved 2016-01-20 ASF Board Meeting Minutes

2016-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to PMC] For your convenience, the Apache OpenOffice portion of the Approved 2016-01-20 ASF Board minutes is available at . - Dennis BACKGROUND The complete collection of Board Meeting Minutes

RE: [QUESTION] Karma for www.openoffice.org contribution and editing

2016-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
QUESTION] Karma for www.openoffice.org contribution and > editing > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > We have arrangements for non-committers to contribute to the CWiki > > and the MediaWiki, even the project Blog. > > > > In terms of requesting Help Wanted on topi

[QUESTION] Karma for www.openoffice.org contribution and editing

2016-02-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Contribute page and perhaps some other places.) -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail

FW: Use of OpenOffice logo.

2016-02-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
JC, Some folks have pointed to cases that, if you adhere to them, you do not require any further permission. It is not necessary to contact priv...@openoffice.apache.org if you conform to those parameters. - Dennis [BCC PMC] > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce

RE: Use of OpenOffice logo.

2016-02-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to AOO PMC] Questions about trademarks and permissible usage must be directed to . The agreement on permissions will be based on narrow, specific usage to be worked out in confidence by communication to the private@ list. Please follow-up on private@. - Dennis > -Original Message

RE: [DISCUSS] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven

2016-02-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Carl, thanks for clearing that up. > -Original Message- > From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 15:30 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven > > On 02/16/20

RE: [DISCUSS] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven

2016-02-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
9:56 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven > > > On 02/15/2016 04:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > In case it is useful in this case, be aware that it is the last > > vote cast by any individual that matters when

RE: review requested: [Issue 67103] check in OpenOffice NetBeans integration : [Attachment 85289] unfixed defect

2016-02-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Yes, the attachment is a .docx file named Great Thoughts [;<). I also marked it obsolete pending complete removal. > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 03:43 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: review requested: [

RE: Food for Thought

2016-02-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Thank you Michael > -Original Message- > From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 01:44 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Food for Thought > > On 15.02.2016 23:14, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > > > The typical AOO user

RE: [VOTE] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven

2016-02-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+0 from me too. This is just a ping. I want to examine the source packaging and try compiling the jars but not at the moment. More feedback soon. > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 14:21 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >

RE: [DISCUSS] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven

2016-02-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In case it is useful in this case, be aware that it is the last vote cast by any individual that matters when you finally count them. It is not necessary to end the voting if you fall short of the votes you need. You can leave the [VOTE] open and see how one can assist in obtaining necessary a

Food for Thought

2016-02-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ressed needs met. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail - To unsub

RE: Building on Windows

2016-02-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I couldn't tell from your updated instruction page what compiler was used. Does your build use a compiler that is in the Windows 7 SDK, or another compiler, such as an Express edition? And thank you and Damjan for all of the attention it took to get this working. - Dennis > -Original Mes

RE: SVN to BZ robot not working

2016-02-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I just saw Kay's SVN to BZ commit message for the patch of mine she submitted earlier. See Comment 16 at the bottom of https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126635#c16 Maybe it was just delay to BZ and then from BZ to the CC: to Kay. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Damjan

RE: Access to OOO_EXTRAS?

2016-02-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Please. My SourceForge user name is -- wait for it -- orcmid > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 02:04 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Access to OOO_EXTRAS? > > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > I am looki

BZ 125501 (was RE: Where to start?)

2016-02-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My reading of the bug report is that it is entirely about OS/2 and has nothing to do with Windows. I suppose the only question is whether that created a regression on 4.1.2 on any non-OS/2 platform. Do we know if Yuri (or someone) merged those changes to the AOO410 branch before AOO 4.1.2 wa

RE: Where to start?

2016-02-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I can think of a few that are pressing but not necessarily the sort of thing being dreamed of. 1. Usability issues. We have a couple of serious usability issues with respect to the current code base. These are at least for Windows: a. A method for automatically backing up and resetting an

RE: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

2016-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
s really up to Carl to pursue this, which I recommend, or go off-project (which would remain an alternative anyhow). - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 11:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org

RE: [DISCUSS][POLICY?] Lost Features When Saving to ODF

2016-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
e.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][POLICY?] Lost Features When Saving to ODF > > On 2/7/2016 11:51 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > ... > > 3. Note that on saving to .xls, the rubber-stamp warning about > > possible loss of features occurs, but in this case the feature is not &

RE: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

2016-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 03:56 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven > Repository > > On 02/04/2016 03:48 PM,

HELP WANTED! (RE: [MENTORING?] Guiding volunteers)

2016-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
gine a ton of small to medium tasks that could be advertised and coordinated in this way. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:21 > To: 'dev@openoffice.apache.org' >

RE: Extension website: older URL give wrong CSS

2016-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
FR web forum, I see the same (English) page when going to either of and . I am using Internet Explorer 11 from Windows 10 Pro. Was this a temporary problem? What details are different for you? Is it about in

[DISCUSS][POLICY?] Lost Features When Saving to ODF

2016-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to AOO Project Management Committee] A. THE SITUATION We have some situations of the following kind: 1. An user is working in Apache OpenOffice and makes use of various features that appear to succeed and the desired result is visible in the presentation. 2. When the working document is

RE: svn commit: r1728955 - in /openoffice/trunk/ext_sources: 2e482c7567908d334785ce7d69ddfff7-commons-codec-1.6-src.tar.gz 3c219630e4302863a9a83d0efde889db-commons-logging-1.1.1-src.tar.gz 625ff5f2f96

2016-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Will this make any earlier AOO source releases unbuildable from the distributed source archive? - Dennis (realizing that this may open up a larger question about repeatability of older source releases) PS: Hmm, if we undertake changing the build system, there may need to be some work to prese

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:42 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO > > I think there are pathname parsing issues in Mi

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Fernando, GYP does look interesting, at a high level. I notice it is hosted at Google and not completely spun out as an open-source project. Still ... There is an interesting mention of GYP use of Ninja in hybrid projects, with an apparently-extraordinary improvement in [incremental] bu

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think there are pathname parsing issues in MingW, although I don't think anything is as contorted as with cygWin. These usually arise because of the shell being used, that then leads them to rewrite command lines when calling a native utility. It seems that is the top of the slippery slope.

[MENTORING?] Guiding volunteers

2016-02-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is now time that folks start looking at right-sized projects that could be mentored and made available to students participating in Google Summer of Code (GSoC). There is also a discussion, as part of community development, on mentoring generally and finding ways to make opportunities for vo

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hmm, have to think about the IDE question. I'm a yes and no about that. IDEs should be usable. I'm not so clear that one should be essential to do a plain build of the product from source. I prefer command-line builds on Windows, although I use IDEs to edit and to do local builds of things t

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think Marcus raises important points about capacity and how we could bootstrap through this. Some musings: There are also some related activities that need to follow in some manner, such as changing deployment for Windows and probably for OSX too, both for similar reasons. Getting into the

FW: [ApacheCon NA] Client Track

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is interesting how Cordova and Flex are different, but are concerned with client-facing technologies. Apache OpenOffice is probably the most heavily-client project that the ASF has, and Corinthia, had it endured, would be somewhere between these two kinds of client worlds. I can imagine an

RE: Building on Windows

2016-02-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 13:48 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Building on Windows > > On 2/4/2016 12:40 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: > > Hi Patricia, > > > > Patricia Shanahan schrieb: > >> I think

RE: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2016-02-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
heckouts there are many more filetypes I need svn:eol properties on [;<). The 4.1.2 zip source was definitely not made from a native-Windows checkout. > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Sunday, November 15,

RE: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

2016-02-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
new Apache OpenOffice release that would include the code and other materials that go with this. This would tend to require a special release for just this. So, for (2), there is more to consider. Notes below. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@ap

RE: Including Gradle Wrapper Jar in SVN

2016-02-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
GENERIC THOUGHTS This is a generic response without consideration of the merits of the particular proposal. 1. Normally, we are discouraged from keeping binaries (i.e., non source) in the SVN. Now I wonder if we already have .jar files in the Source Release. (I am afraid to look [;<). 2. I

RE: Building on Windows

2016-02-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 08:16 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Building on Windows > [ ... ] > > I have some hypotheses about my current problems. Is there a master list > of build targets and d

RE: Building on Windows

2016-02-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 03:29 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Building on Windows > > Yes, thanks. At least, it gets past oox. > > So one trick for a missing file is to explicitly build and de

RE: Building on Windows

2016-02-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Yep, there it is. Thanks Greg > -Original Message- > From: Greg Bullock [mailto:g...@nwra.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 18:54 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Building on Windows > > > > On 2/2/2016 4:37 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: [ ... ] > > I found so

RE: Building on Windows

2016-02-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The line-ending business is a mess. The normal approach with SVN and Tortoise SVN is to set the system to bring platform-dependent line breaks to the working folder on check-out and updates and to use the standard on-repository (LF = NL, no CR) on check-ins. This is by file type (wildcard) bec

RE: Template RSS Feeds Not Found

2016-01-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
org need to be made at SourceForge unless there is a script employed that is under www.openoffice.org. I have not found any information about that. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 09:18 >

RE: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

2016-01-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
below.. > > On 01/30/2016 12:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] > > I am copying the PMC on this and requesting that all discussion be > here, and not there, so all committers and interested parties can > contribute to the discussion. We would also need to know that at leas

Template RSS Feeds Not Found

2016-01-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
pears to be working, although it indicates that the last update was on 2015-12-18, having me think that this is an obsolete feed location. What might the correct feed locations be? The twitter feeds based on them seem to be working. - Dennis -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org

RE: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

2016-01-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC AOO PMC] Carl, I notice that you are running two concurrent proposals. Personally, I am conflicted about this. I think this is admirable and worthy work. However, it is going to Maven as effectively a distribution from the project, and that implies an associated release. At the same tim

RE: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Louis, I am the one to do that. I did not know you wanted to drop your AOO committer karma. I will take care of both PMC and committer today. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:53 > To: dev@openoffi

RE: Going

2016-01-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Louis, thank you for your continuous and consistent devotion to OpenOffice, ODF, and the whole idea of a multi-platform productivity suite that is freely available to everyone. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, January 2

RE: Fwd: Your stand proposal for FOSDEM 2016

2016-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For FOSDEM, existing materials should be perfect. See announced today. There is an already-created "Powered by Apache OpenOffice" symbol that is only provided as a PSD (native Photoshop file format) although OpenOffice Draw will open it. It is pb-open

RE: Recovering from broken password (bug 125431)

2016-01-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Here's my understanding of *some*cases* of this problem based on what we now know about the cases that are reported and a patch that is being tested: The user profile has nothing to do with this problem, and reinstalling AOO 4.1.2 will not help either. The problem is with a dependency on the pl

RE: Question

2016-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This is all very interesting posturing. However, AOO 4.1.2 does NOT save documents in .docx format. Simple, open Apache OpenOffice, start a Writer (Text) document, then click Save As ... . Where do you see any option to use OOXML and .DOCX ? (The "Word XML" formats are not .DOCX. They are f

Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[bcc: dev@] Hi Keith, I have belatedly noticed your efforts to reboot the documentation effort, first in April and again in December, 2015. I commend you on this. While people raise their hands, we don't seem to achieve traction. I would like to know from those who did not persevere, What

eBook: Building Maintainable Software

2016-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
al interest. Dealing with maintenance of an existing large code base such as that for OpenOffice is an entirely different matter and not part of the coverage of this book. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmi

RE: Introduction

2016-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hello Allison, In addition to subscribing to the doc mailing list, a possible place of interest is the User Guide work on the OpenOffice.org Wiki, at , part of the overall . The

RE: Remove comments in English Dictionaries?

2016-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 about comments, etc. > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 14:54 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Remove comments in English Dictionaries? > > Marco A.G.Pinto wrote: > > I am writing to ask if it is okay

RE: [REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt

2016-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
riginal Message- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 06:29 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; > Subject: Re: [REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > >

RE: [REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt

2016-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to another. Do you envision how having such information would be helpful in assessing the effectiveness of this project's handling of reported issues and how that is reflected in improvements to the product? > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > &g

RE: Remove NSS from xmlsecurity - alternatives?

2016-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Great work! Considering the nature of the issue, where users have important files they can no longer open, I would think getting it into an early maintenance release (e.g., a 4.1.3) along with many other fixes that don't impact UI, localization, documentation, etc., would be a preferable soluti

[REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt

2016-01-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ues will be introduced. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 11:33 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: FW: [DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: Issue Clearance Quality + > Technical Debt > &

[REPORT] PMC 2015 and 4Q 2015 Private-List Participation

2016-01-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, procedural, and governance topics. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 19:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [REPORT] PMC 2015-08 Private-List Activity through August

RE: Apache OpenOffice Templates and Extensions new sites

2016-01-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks for this Roberto, It is a great achievement to have a livelihood that supports work that you love. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Roberto Galoppini [mailto:roberto.galopp...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:17 > To: dev > Subject: Apache OpenOffice Template

RE: Updating the WHY section of www.openoffice.org

2016-01-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am +1 for also looking at the why_new_computers page as Jan suggests. Telling people that AOO is free is not the issue. Where it is an advantage is a matter for users to decide. We should let them judge for themselves. Our blanket claims are not helpful and come off like commercial puffery.

RE: Damage to an item while editing the Extension directory

2016-01-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hello, Jörg, Clarification please: At 2015-01-09T15:50Z, over the Internet from Seattle, Washington, 1. is accessible and it has your change. 2.

RE: Updating the WHY section of www.openoffice.org

2016-01-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on removing the page. > -Original Message- > From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 04:59 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Updating the WHY section of www.openoffice.org > > > > On 01/08/2016 07:28 PM, Jan Høydahl wrote: > > Hi

RE: Reporting broken download link

2016-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Language packs are a bit different, although they might include writing tools for your preferred language. For language packs, go to . Choose the language of interest if it is not already selected for you. Then choose "Download language pack" (possibly tran

RE: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Marcus, That's an interesting idea from you and Andreas. > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 01:24 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document > with no auto backup copy. >

RE: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 13:05 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document > with no auto backup copy. > [ ... ] > As an AOO user, I would sadly miss th

RE: [Forum] Vietnamese forum to be closed?

2015-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:09 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [Forum] Vietnamese forum to be closed? > > Am 12/31/2015 07:36 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > > On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:26:53 +0100 >

RE: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on separating the issues. While the profile corruption can be tied to recovery failures and being trapped in a recovery loop, there is a quite separate matter on corruption/loss of the presumably-recoverable material itself, whether a final Save operation or some auto-save complication. The

Building on WIndows, revisited

2015-12-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Patricia, I've been meaning to ping you about progress on building AOO on Windows. As much as I don't want to go through the whole POSIX/Cygwin route and also find a way to use Visual Studio Express 2008 on my Windows 10 system (which is already dedicated to Visual Studio 2015 Community Editi

RE: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I want to re-emphasize that there is a difference between creating a backup and performing automatic periodic backups (which for speed, are often into an auto-backup/-recovery format somewhere). We need to dig into this and also not that, usually, creating a backup is trivial and easy to tell when

RE: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? > -Original Message- > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Complaint Writ

RE: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording

2015-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:00 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording > > > > On 12/29/2015 09:05 AM, De

RE: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 I also think it is important to distinguish auto-save and the related auto-recovery from keeping a backup. Automatically keeping a backup involves not writing over the document that was opened, usually by renaming the original in some manner, and not intruding on normal operation. Backing

RE: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording

2015-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The TL;DR: Yes, the license page describes what must be reflected in LICENSE and NOTICE files for 3rd party software, and something about the software files too. It does not address how such software comes into a project's hands. It is not about acceptance of such software. No precedent abo

RE: Опен офис некоректно отображается текст

2015-12-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thank you Vlad, It is apparently Google Translate that decided the original question was in Serbian. Strange. It looked like Russian to me, too. I figured that I just didn't know Cyrillic was used for Serbian :). The Russian translation is certainly different. - Dennis > -Original M

RE: Опен офис некоректно отображается текст

2015-12-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
he.org > Subject: Опен офис некоректно отображается текст > > Опен офис некоректно отображается текст версия 4.1.2 опен офис > как исправить? > > > -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F

ISO/IEC 29500 OOXML Standards (was RE: Apache POI, .xlsx export filter ...)

2015-12-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The ISO Standards for OOXML are free to the public. There is a list of all such free standards, but you have to scan it for the OOXML ones (by their ISO/IEC 29500 numbers) near the end of the list at . The easiest way to get

RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Good idea. The current issues are is around interoperability and improvement of OpenFormula implementation. The other is about usability and UI behavior. No need to tailgate one onto the other. > -Original Message- > From: #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN# > [mailto:jatinshr...@

RE: Successful 1st Build!

2015-12-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Great news, Azeem! Which platform did you build for? - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Azeem [mailto:azeemmys...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 07:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Successful 1st Build! > > Hey Devs, > > Wohoo.!! Everything went smooth an

New Committer: Don Lewis (truckman)

2015-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC AOO PMC] The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to announced that Don Lewis has accepted and taken the ID truckman. A warm welcome to Don Lewis. Regards, Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC --

RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Is there a Bugzilla issue with Jatin's patch? > -Original Message- > From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 08:57 > To: Dennis Hamilton > Cc: Apache OO ; #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN > JATINSHRAVAN# > Subject: Re: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and C

RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
; From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 13:54 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] > >

RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
n Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: [ ... ] > > PS: I looked for a Bugzilla issue on this enhancement but couldn't > find > > it. I will look again. > > > > The issue was duplicated countless times, but the earliest report s

RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 13:15 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns > > Am 13.12.2015 um 17:12 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > >

RE: Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
roperability). - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 19:50 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Cc: dam...@apache.org; '#PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN#' > > Subject: Calc Selection

Calc Selections of Entire Rows and Columns

2015-12-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The specification of entire rows and columns in cell range addresses is covered in the ODF 1.2 specification. Part 1 provides some detail in section 9.2.4 Column and Row Range Addresses. The OpenFormula specification (ODF 1.2 Part 2) provides syntax for it in section 5.8 References. This is w

RE: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

2015-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
is apparently the correct URL. The JavaDoc HTML pages can be checked-in to the ooo-site SVN and published from there via the mechanism for staging pages to the actual site. Look at

RE: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

2015-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I have no idea how much ceremony is needed for this. Let's see what others have to say. Thanks for the recreation of the JavaDocs. I think the lazy consensus could work. It is a para-/quasi-distribution employing already-released source. In a way, you are the distribution manager here (hesit

Using the Appropriate Windows Redistributables

2015-12-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC AOO-Security] This information needs to be added to our build instructions to ensure that folks checking a release or working on code contributions all use the same Microsoft-supplied redistributable libraries. I'm providing it via email as a quick heads-up. - Dennis FINDING WINDOWS RED

RE: [RISK?] FW: Daily/Nightly builds for Windows?

2015-12-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
FW: Daily/Nightly builds for Windows? > > > > On 12/04/2015 09:55 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > > > > On 12/04/2015 08:27 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> [BCC PMC and QA Lists. This is a serious topic for dev@ community > >> discussion.] > >

RE: [RISK?] Official Apache Release Policy Implications

2015-12-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 01:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [RISK?] Official Apache Release Policy Implications > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > I agree that

RE: [RISK?] Official Apache Release Policy Implications

2015-12-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
7:18 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [RISK?] Official Apache Release Policy Implications > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > "Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED > > to download all signed source code packages onto their own &g

RE: [RISK?] Official Apache Release Policy Implications

2015-12-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
nt VP of legal also voted +1 as one of our mentors we > were well served. > > Thanks and Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > > > > [BCC AOO PMC] > > > > From the Chair, > &

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