Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-12 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
+1 -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On 12/12/2012 01:48 AM, janI wrote: -1, sorry but this thread is spiraling out to a theoretical discussion, so I allow myself to focus it back: My original proposal was (in shortform, see mail 1): "propopal: keep the create user as it is today, in the new version". I have received no -1, one

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/12/12 10:48 AM, janI wrote: > -1, sorry but this thread is spiraling out to a theoretical discussion, so > I allow myself to focus it back: I don't agree here but I am fine with the way how you plan to move forward. So please continue the upgrade first, keep user registration manual for now

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-12 Thread janI
-1, sorry but this thread is spiraling out to a theoretical discussion, so I allow myself to focus it back: My original proposal was (in shortform, see mail 1): "propopal: keep the create user as it is today, in the new version". I have received no -1, one +1 and 2 concerns: one (from imacat, ma

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 12/10/2012 09:39 AM, janI wrote: On 10 December 2012 17:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/10/12 5:45 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, janI wrote: we have now seen over the last period that the number of new wiki users are very low and since the "normal" spam measure

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread Helen russian
I've verified for the new account: Testaccount. The manual registration a new wiki user works fine: * Email with a random password has been sent. I received it normal. * When I first login as Testaccount with this password, Wiki offers me change the password and shows me the form for it. * The pass

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread janI
Some users think they need an account just to read, but that might not be the case with these users. Helen: you have the procedure in your head, could you not simulate a new user, and verify it works ? I have no problem with the old automated procedure, as long as sysop understand the risk of a n

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread helen
Hello Jan, all. 10.12.2012 22:33, janI пишет: The most efficient measure is a manual creation, and if I count correctly we talk about less than 10 new users in a month. I think the manual registration for new wiki users is not good. We have created 12 new user accounts since 24 November. The

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread janI
On 10 December 2012 17:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 12/10/12 5:45 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, janI wrote: > >> we have now seen over the last period that the number of new wiki users > are > >> very low and since the "normal" spam measures have received a -1, I > p

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread janI
It was: - 4 days cooling off period (simple config switch) This is quite normal, time can be adjusted, but to combat spam, it should be at least 3 days. - sysop approval of new accounts, before they can edit (this is NO mail, but "inside" mwiki) I am against this one myself, because it requires s

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/10/12 5:45 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, janI wrote: >> we have now seen over the last period that the number of new wiki users are >> very low and since the "normal" spam measures have received a -1, I propose >> the following for the new Wiki. >> > > What was the

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/10/12 5:33 PM, janI wrote: > to me it is a long term solution +1 when taking into account that we have 10 or less requests per month Juergen > > alternatives are: > > 1) open up, and get spam > 2) use some of the spam measures, like e.g. cool off period = 4 days. > > The most effici

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, janI wrote: > we have now seen over the last period that the number of new wiki users are > very low and since the "normal" spam measures have received a -1, I propose > the following for the new Wiki. > What was the "normal" measure that got a -1? Are there no C

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread janI
to me it is a long term solution alternatives are: 1) open up, and get spam 2) use some of the spam measures, like e.g. cool off period = 4 days. The most efficient measure is a manual creation, and if I count correctly we talk about less than 10 new users in a month. Please feel free to su

Re: [proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread imacat
On 2012/12/10 22:52, janI said: > we have now seen over the last period that the number of new wiki users are > very low and since the "normal" spam measures have received a -1, I propose > the following for the new Wiki. > > The "new user" page is changed, to send an e-mail to > dev@openoffice.ap

[proposal] manual create new user on upgraded wiki

2012-12-10 Thread janI
we have now seen over the last period that the number of new wiki users are very low and since the "normal" spam measures have received a -1, I propose the following for the new Wiki. The "new user" page is changed, to send an e-mail to dev@openoffice.apache.org (as done manual today), and one of