Re: [OSM-dev] Participation in gsoc 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Hughes
Mikel Maron wrote: > At least 2 of the 4 Google Summer of Code students, Arindam and Subhodip > were actually already active in OSM, and continue to be. Their > contributions, the GPX upload plugin for JOSM and localisations of > Rails, haven't been brought into trunk yet, and I'm not sure why

Re: [OSM-dev] Participation in gsoc 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Mikel, Mikel Maron wrote: > At least 2 of the 4 Google Summer of Code students, Arindam and > Subhodip were actually already active in OSM, and continue to be. > Their contributions, the GPX upload plugin for JOSM and localisations > of Rails, haven't been brought into trunk yet, and I'm not sure

Re: [OSM-dev] Participation in gsoc 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Mikel Maron
Marius All great ideas. I encourage you to start adding ideas to the wiki, and add your name to interested students list. We do need to archive the current GSoC wiki page, and start fresh for 2009. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code Best Mikel

Re: [OSM-dev] Participation in gsoc 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Mikel Maron
> I'm not sure whether we are going to participate in that. I am not aware > of any plans. That doesn't mean there aren't any though. The community > take-up of last year's SoC results was not as good as we would have > expected, which can perhaps partly be explained by the fact that > partic

Re: [OSM-dev] NAPTAN bus stop database

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Wood
This was mostly being coordinated on talk-transit and the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Import, so far I've mostly tried to document the xml schema of the data, but not yet actually attempted coding a conversion tool. Things to be considered when importing and a basic outline of t

Re: [OSM-dev] SVN rails_port questions: browse, relicensing

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Hughes
Simone Cortesi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> But could you perhaps check your code and see whether you have an option >> in there that allows the user not only to select agree/disagree but also >> the third option, "agree and PD". And if such an option is not

Re: [OSM-dev] SVN rails_port questions: browse, relicensing

2009-02-11 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > But could you perhaps check your code and see whether you have an option > in there that allows the user not only to select agree/disagree but also > the third option, "agree and PD". And if such an option is not in there, > could you perhap

Re: [OSM-dev] Participation in gsoc 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Marius-Quintus Stuebs wrote: > I'd like to participate in the OpenStreetMap project. In particular I > thought about helping within the google summer of code. I'm not sure whether we are going to participate in that. I am not aware of any plans. That doesn't mean there aren't any though. Th

[OSM-dev] Participation in gsoc 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Marius-Quintus Stuebs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ahoy, I am Marius, a student of computer sciences in the 9th semester at the University of Hamburg, Germany. I'd like to participate in the OpenStreetMap project. In particular I thought about helping within the google summer of code. I'm highly motiv

Re: [OSM-dev] SVN rails_port questions: browse, relicensing

2009-02-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: >> Does your code take into account the plan that people should have the >> option of saying "no", "yes", and "yes and by the way all my data is >> PD anyway"? > > It implements the Foundation's relicensing plan - you'll have to discuss > the details of that with the Foun

Re: [OSM-dev] SVN rails_port questions: browse, relicensing

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Hughes
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Tom, > > Tom Hughes wrote: >>> Also, I read from the foundation meeting minutes that the code to >>> handle the technical side of the planned license change has already >>> been mostly completed > > [...] > >> There is some code on my hard disk that I will be working on

Re: [OSM-dev] SVN rails_port questions: browse, relicensing

2009-02-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Tom, Tom Hughes wrote: >> Also, I read from the foundation meeting minutes that the code to >> handle the technical side of the planned license change has already >> been mostly completed [...] > There is some code on my hard disk that I will be working on completing > over the next few weeks

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > For changeset timeouts: triggers, triggers, triggers. Or just initialize the > closing time of a changeset to a date in the future. the closing time trick is how the rails code works. would you also add triggers for changeset bbox upda

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Stefan de Konink escribió: >>> I'm not a foreign keys guru myself but I think it may be difficult to >>> have one with the relation_members as designed currently. >> I have solved that by splitting the members in 3 distinct tables; b

Re: [OSM-dev] Cycle map Mapnik XML file?

2009-02-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Is the cycle map Mapnik XML file available? Would like to know wht the > projection string is to produce a Mercator projection from WGS84 lat/lon > input. > I think Artem might have told me at one point but unfortunately

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shaun McDonald wrote: > I've been busy trying to fix the server Potlatch code so that > it in many cases the corruption will no longer occur, as it is > now doing it in a similar way to the XML api, or also > incorporating it into a transaction. amf_controller hasn't been the source of any inc

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Hughes
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Raphaël Jacquot escribió: >>> Jokes aside, does your bulk importer also implement populating the >>> history tables, making sure that every node referenced by a way (and >>> every node/way/relation referenced by a relation) actually

Re: [OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 11 Feb 2009, at 13:51, Patrik Sjöberg wrote: On 11 feb 2009, at 13.42, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 11 Feb 2009, at 12:14, 80n wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Patrik Sjöberg > wrote: Hi! What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom level? I would like all ro

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Matt Amos escribió: > > Rails guys: we're using InnoDB tables for a reason, you know. > > yes - for transactions. the foreign keys are a plus, but they can't do > all the checking (relation_members, changeset timeouts, etc...). For relations: see my reply to St

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:48:58 +0100, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Stefan de Konink escribió: >> > I'm not a foreign keys guru myself but I think it may be difficult to >> > have one with the relation_members as designed currently. >> >> I have solved that by spl

Re: [OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread Patrik Sjöberg
On 11 feb 2009, at 13.42, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 11 Feb 2009, at 12:14, 80n wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Patrik Sjöberg > wrote: Hi! What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom level? I would like all roads visible on zoom 5 for instance, possibly Th

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Stefan de Konink escribió: > > I'm not a foreign keys guru myself but I think it may be difficult to > > have one with the relation_members as designed currently. > > I have solved that by splitting the members in 3 distinct tables; but > placed an explicit inde

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >>> all this should be mostly handled by the db server with appropriate >>> foreign key constraints, not by the application code >> +1 >> >> Rails guys: we're using InnoDB tables for a reason, you know. > > I'm not a foreign keys guru myself but I

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Raphaël Jacquot escribió: >> > Jokes aside, does your bulk importer also implement populating the >> > history tables, making sure that every node referenced by a way (and >> > every node/way/relatio

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >> all this should be mostly handled by the db server with appropriate >> foreign key constraints, not by the application code > > +1 > > Rails guys: we're using InnoDB tables for a reason, you know. I'm not a foreign keys guru myself but I think it may be difficu

Re: [OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread 80n
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 11 Feb 2009, at 12:14, 80n wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Patrik Sjöberg wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom >> level? I would like all roads visible on zoom 5 for inst

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Raphaël Jacquot escribió: > > Jokes aside, does your bulk importer also implement populating the > > history tables, making sure that every node referenced by a way (and > > every node/way/relation referenced by a relation) actually exists, and > > all these tot

Re: [OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 11 Feb 2009, at 12:14, 80n wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Patrik Sjöberg > wrote: Hi! What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom level? I would like all roads visible on zoom 5 for instance, possibly There is currently no predefined method for this. Each

Re: [OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread 80n
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Patrik Sjöberg wrote: > Hi! > > What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom > level? I would like all roads visible on zoom 5 for instance, possibly > with lower resolution (fewer nodes per way). I'm guessing something > like > http://www.i

Re: [OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:39:07 +0100, Patrik Sjöberg wrote: > Hi! > > What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom > level? I would like all roads visible on zoom 5 for instance, possibly > with lower resolution (fewer nodes per way). I'm guessing something > like http:/

[OSM-dev] road data in zoom levels

2009-02-11 Thread Patrik Sjöberg
Hi! What would be the best way to get data for ways at a specific zoom level? I would like all roads visible on zoom 5 for instance, possibly with lower resolution (fewer nodes per way). I'm guessing something like http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way[highway=*] but the API's only

[OSM-dev] NAPTAN bus stop database

2009-02-11 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Our group of OSMers in Birmingham and the West Midlands have volunteered to be a test area for how to import this database whilst integrating with existing data for bus stops, and being able to cope with weekly (and eventually daily) updates. We've got one guy who can code and wants to have a

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:11:38 +0100, Raphaël Jacquot wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >>> I just finished coding a bulk importer which interfaces directly to the >>> MySQL >>> DB instead of interfacing to the API. >> >> Well then I say let's just politely ask

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >> I just finished coding a bulk importer which interfaces directly to the >> MySQL >> DB instead of interfacing to the API. > > Well then I say let's just politely ask TomH to open up the MySQL TCP > port for public access and create u

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Raphaël Jacquot wrote: > Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >> WTF does this happen on every object (read: node) I upload? The API already >> knows who I am the second I started to upload the diff! > > > that's rails for you... > the thing attempts to do all the work of

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > Hi all, > The bad news is, I've had a look at the SQL queries the Rails port is making > to the DB during a mass import, and all I could think is "WTF?!?" > > (Rants follows) > > So, let's have a look at this: > > [2009-02-10 01:00:34.809017 #1664] User Load (0.0

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Brett Henderson
80n wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Shaun McDonald > mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk>> wrote: > >> > I fail to see why slower growth is a good thing? >> > >> Slower (perhaps "steady" is a better word) growth has its >> advantages for >> replicatio

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread 80n
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 11 Feb 2009, at 08:52, 80n wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Brett Henderson wrote: > >> Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >> > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Shaun McDonald escribió: >> > >> >> Having a slightly less efficien

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 11 Feb 2009, at 08:52, 80n wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Brett Henderson wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Shaun McDonald escribió: > >> Having a slightly less efficient import that ensures consistency is a >> great thing, as it means tha

[OSM-dev] Cycle map Mapnik XML file?

2009-02-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Is the cycle map Mapnik XML file available? Would like to know wht the projection string is to produce a Mercator projection from WGS84 lat/lon input. I think Artem might have told me at one point but unfortunately have lost the email :-( Thanks, Nick _

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 11 Feb 2009, at 01:36, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Shaun McDonald escribió: >> Having a slightly less efficient import that ensures consistency is a >> great thing, as it means that the database doesn't grow too quickly. > > I fail to see why slower growth

Re: [OSM-dev] Rantings about API 0.6

2009-02-11 Thread 80n
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Brett Henderson wrote: > Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > > El Miércoles, 11 de Febrero de 2009, Shaun McDonald escribió: > > > >> Having a slightly less efficient import that ensures consistency is a > >> great thing, as it means that the database doesn't grow too qu

Re: [OSM-dev] Please help

2009-02-11 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:35:25 +0700, Support Team wrote: > Hello guys, > > My name is Andreas, I from Indonesia. I just want to know about how i use > Open Street Map in to my application, like a google maps ? What kind of application are you developing? A web-site? A standalong-application? In