Re: [OSM-dev] Chinese spam diaries, an analysis

2014-12-04 Thread Andreas Labres
On 03.12.14 17:14, Andy Allan wrote: Thanks for the analysis, I hope it provides developers with ideas for combatting it via the automated spam filters that we already have[1]. I'd suggest to extend/refine the automated filter somewhat. Say: * a novice ist not allowed to post at all * a novice

Re: [OSM-dev] Chinese spam diaries, an analysis

2014-12-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 04/12/14 11:17, Andreas Labres wrote: On 03.12.14 17:14, Andy Allan wrote: Thanks for the analysis, I hope it provides developers with ideas for combatting it via the automated spam filters that we already have[1]. I'd suggest to extend/refine the automated filter somewhat. Say: * a

Re: [OSM-dev] Chinese spam diaries, an analysis

2014-12-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/12/14 16:14, Andy Allan wrote: However, spam is an arms race, and I think we might need a different long-term approach. I know in the past using 3rd-party spam filtering services was too expensive (and not really very OSM-ish either). The main such system is akmiset and I'd love to use

Re: [OSM-dev] Chinese spam diaries, an analysis

2014-12-04 Thread Andreas Labres
On 04.12.14 12:33, Tom Hughes wrote: So in other words, most of things we already factor in to our spam scoring... We're just not quite as rigid. A (hidden) spam score is bad (IMO). Nobody sees it, almost nobody can test it. A documented user level with documented rules would make much more

Re: [OSM-dev] Chinese spam diaries, an analysis

2014-12-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 04/12/14 12:06, Andreas Labres wrote: On 04.12.14 12:33, Tom Hughes wrote: So in other words, most of things we already factor in to our spam scoring... We're just not quite as rigid. A (hidden) spam score is bad (IMO). Nobody sees it, almost nobody can test it. Nothing is hidden: