Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-10 Thread Don Brown
ys think? rgds - Original Message From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List Sent: Friday, 6 October, 2006 4:26:53 PM Subject: Re: Struts 2.0.1 release Has anyone volunteered to work on the XWork docs? The XW2 docs aren't any better or worse than the XW 1.

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-10 Thread tm jee
er, 2006 4:26:53 PM Subject: Re: Struts 2.0.1 release Has anyone volunteered to work on the XWork docs? The XW2 docs aren't any better or worse than the XW 1.1 docs, and I believe that release series was getting the "ready for prime time" stamp. Is anyone besides Struts 2.0.x trying to

Re: Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-07 Thread David H. DeWolf
From a user's standpoint, I agree, the core is solid and ready for GA. I'm finding feature enhancements that I'd like to see, but not necessarily bugs/issues. Hope that helps. . . David Don Brown wrote: Yeah, sorry, that is what I was trying to say - I'm fine with freezing the API here, pus

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release - Maven issues

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Yep, that does it! -Ted. On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try this: mvn clean install site -P xwork,plugins,apps,all,itest,pre-assembly You don't need core, and I put the toolbox module in the default profile (there was no toolbox profile). Don Ted Husted wrote: > On 10/6/06,

Re: Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Yeah, sorry, that is what I was trying to say - I'm fine with freezing the API here, pushing future improvements into 2.1 or 3.0. I think we are 100% on the same page here :) Let's get this puppy rolled! Don Ted Husted wrote: Well, we wouldn't want to *break* the API in the same release ser

Re: Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Well, we wouldn't want to *break* the API in the same release series, since that's what a release series is suppose to mean. If we want to break the API, we should go onto the next series (2.1 or 3.0). Though, if we were to break the API, we'd also break WW2 compatibility, and that's suppose to be

Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Hmm...could Struts 2.0.1 go GA...I hadn't really thought about it before. For me, the main thing that GA does is mean that you can't screw with the API anymore in that branch. Therefore, if we needed to do anything significant, we'd have to do it in a new branch, and put the old API through t

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release - Maven issues

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Try this: mvn clean install site -P xwork,plugins,apps,all,itest,pre-assembly You don't need core, and I put the toolbox module in the default profile (there was no toolbox profile). Don Ted Husted wrote: On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymo

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release - Maven issues

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymore. The code has been split into different "plugins". A plugin is a specific extension to the Struts framework that, by definition, isn't "core". This allows us to more easily manage a codebase that integrat

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Has anyone volunteered to work on the XWork docs? The XW2 docs aren't any better or worse than the XW 1.1 docs, and I believe that release series was getting the "ready for prime time" stamp. Is anyone besides Struts 2.0.x trying to use XWork in production? Is there even an XWork forum any more?

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Works for me. Don Ted Husted wrote: Right now, I count 12 Struts 2 JARs, plus struts2-all, 9 of which are plugins. For a quality vote, I'd expect we could just list them all and let people break out JARs in a different grade s. For example, +1 GA struts2-core struts2-toolbox struts2-config-br

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Right now, I count 12 Struts 2 JARs, plus struts2-all, 9 of which are plugins. For a quality vote, I'd expect we could just list them all and let people break out JARs in a different grade s. For example, +1 GA struts2-core struts2-toolbox struts2-config-browser-plugin struts2-sitemesh-plugin st

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Sounds good to me. The person calling the vote could put forth the list of plugins that fall under each grade? There are certainly some I trust more than others :) Don Ted Husted wrote: OK, how about the same release cycle but independant grades. The notion being that we could vote Struts C

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
OK, how about the same release cycle but independant grades. The notion being that we could vote Struts Core GA, but leave the Tiles Plugin at Alpha or Beta. -Ted. On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could spin plugins off into their own project, with their own release cycle, bu

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
We could spin plugins off into their own project, with their own release cycle, but I'm afraid we don't have the development support to maintain and release all those plugins. By keeping them in the Struts 2 release cycle, we ensure they are maintained and supported. Ideally, yes, they would

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Agreed. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymore. The code has been split into different "plugins". A plugin is a specific extension to the Struts framework that, by definition, isn't "core". This allows us to more easil

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Sounds good. I'll be online on MSN, AIM, GTalk, etc. Also, you can call my cell. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Saturday afternoon is fine with me, however, I'll be at ApacheCon already, but I'm sure there will be internet access somewhere. My only c

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Saturday afternoon is fine with me, however, I'll be at ApacheCon already, but I'm sure there will be internet access somewhere. My only concern, as Wendy said, is to have XWork rolled first. Tell you what. Check out the Internet access, and if

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymore. The code has been split into different "plugins". A plugin is a specific extension to the Struts framework that, by definition, isn't "core". This allows us to more easily manage a codebase that integrat

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Would a plugin even need to be part of the core or extra JAR? Other products based on plugins tend to distribute each plugin separately. Sometimes plugins come bundled with a greater release, but, in most cases, I believe any of the bundled plugins could be released separately if a fix were need

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: This policy of grading a release at the lowest common denominator doesn't seem to be working out all that well. Different parts of the distribution have different levels of 'quality' so to speak. If you have an experimental plugin, that's no reason to downgrade the core. Th

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason I ask is that our 2.0.1 release will be tied to whatever > version moniker that XWork uses. If tomorrow's XWork release is tagged > as "beta", and that cannot change for that set of

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
I absolutely agree! That is one of the advantages of the plugin system. What would be the best way to inform users of the "experimental" quality of a plugin? The Linux kernel uses the "experimental" label to inform the user that a particular module isn't deemed "production quality". Can we

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The reason I ask is that our 2.0.1 release will be tied to whatever version moniker that XWork uses. If tomorrow's XWork release is tagged as "beta", and that cannot change for that set of bits, then the 2.0.1 release will also be forever beta.

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
rote: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, October 8. A lot of changes have gone into the code since 2.0.0 and I'd like to have a solid release that people can check out after Ted and my talks. I'm thinking we'll do this at the Sunday hackathon since I believe T

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
XWork does use the alpha, beta, stable tagging of releases, however, the release process is lightweight and many people have commit access. I do, and you just need to ask Patrick to get access yourself. To be honest, this XWork release shouldn't go 2.0.0 final, because the documentation for X

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Yes. Though, does XWork the release process allow for updating the bits from beta to stable or GA? The reason I ask is that our 2.0.1 release will be tied to whatever version moniker that XWork uses. If tomorrow's XWork release is tagged as "beta", and that cannot change for that set of bits, th

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Rainer Hermanns
Ted, I am planning a beta-1 release of xwork 2.0 for tomorrow. This will be tagged and build with a fixed version number. Would this fit into your timeframe? Rainer > I don't have karma to XWork, so it's not something I could tag myself. > > -Ted. > > On 10/6/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
I don't have karma to XWork, so it's not something I could tag myself. -Ted. On 10/6/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering if maybe we should roll this tomorrow afternoon instead. > They might be working on the Internet con

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm wondering if maybe we should roll this tomorrow afternoon instead. They might be working on the Internet connection on Monday, and my tutorial is Monday afternoon. It would be nice to have it before I leave, so that I can put it on the tutori

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
ridge classes. -Ted. On 9/29/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, October 8. A lot of changes have gone into the code since 2.0.0 and I'd like to have a solid release that people can check out after Ted and my talks. I'm t

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-05 Thread Don Brown
Looks good to me, nice job! Don Ted Husted wrote: The PRC is asking for the usual press releases for ApacheCon. I thought we might want to forward something about Struts 2.0.1. I appended a proposed draft to the release plan. * http://cwiki.apache.org/WW/release-plan-201.html#ReleasePlan2.0.

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-05 Thread Ted Husted
The PRC is asking for the usual press releases for ApacheCon. I thought we might want to forward something about Struts 2.0.1. I appended a proposed draft to the release plan. * http://cwiki.apache.org/WW/release-plan-201.html#ReleasePlan2.0.1-DraftAnnouncementforApacheCon -Ted. -

Re: Form label defaults (was Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-03 Thread David H. DeWolf
ame, name, etc. I'd like to see how the Able project will handle this one, as they are looking to work over Struts using a comprehensive convention-based approach. Don David H. DeWolf wrote: Sounds good to me too. . . any hope of convincing one of you to apply this (or a similar)

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-03 Thread Don Brown
Sounds good, I'll send you my cell number. Wendy, will you be online on Sunday at all? Don Ted Husted wrote: On 9/29/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Really? Dang it, I'm flying in on Saturday night, as I thought it was Saturday and Sunday :/ Well, ok, I guess we'll roll 2.0.1 Monda

Re: Form label defaults (was Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-02 Thread Ted Husted
From https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-1458 <@s.textfield name="user.userName" value="%{user.userName}" label="%{getText('user.userName')}"/> As discussed on the mailing list, the value is already defaulted to the name, so the (very common) idiom in question is <@s.textfield name=

Re: Form label defaults (was Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
ased > approach. > > Don > > David H. DeWolf wrote: > > Sounds good to me too. . . > >> > >> any hope of convincing one of you to apply this > (or a similar) patch > >> prior to the release: > >> > >> https://issues.apac

Re: Form label defaults (was Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-02 Thread David H. DeWolf
pproach. Don David H. DeWolf wrote: Sounds good to me too. . . any hope of convincing one of you to apply this (or a similar) patch prior to the release: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-1458 Thanks, David Don Brown wrote: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, Octob

Form label defaults (was Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-09-29 Thread Don Brown
te: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, October 8. A lot of changes have gone into the code since 2.0.0 and I'd like to have a solid release that people can check out after Ted and my talks. I'm thinking we'll do this at the Sunday hackathon since I believe Te

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-09-29 Thread David H. DeWolf
Sounds good to me too. . . any hope of convincing one of you to apply this (or a similar) patch prior to the release: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-1458 Thanks, David Don Brown wrote: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, October 8. A lot of changes have gone

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-09-29 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/29/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Really? Dang it, I'm flying in on Saturday night, as I thought it was Saturday and Sunday :/ Well, ok, I guess we'll roll 2.0.1 Monday then. My flight is scheduled to arrive at 12:30 on Sunday, so if there's connectivity, we could still do it o

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-09-29 Thread Don Brown
Really? Dang it, I'm flying in on Saturday night, as I thought it was Saturday and Sunday :/ Well, ok, I guess we'll roll 2.0.1 Monday then. Don Martin Cooper wrote: On 9/29/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, Octo

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-09-29 Thread Martin Cooper
On 9/29/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, October 8. A lot of changes have gone into the code since 2.0.0 and I'd like to have a solid release that people can check out after Ted and my talks. I'm thinking we&#

Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-09-29 Thread Don Brown
I want to roll the Struts 2.0.1 release next weekend, October 8. A lot of changes have gone into the code since 2.0.0 and I'd like to have a solid release that people can check out after Ted and my talks. I'm thinking we'll do this at the Sunday hackathon since I believe Ted