RE: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-03 Thread Martin Gainty
-0700 Subject: Re: zip problems with 2.1.8 From: musa...@gmail.com To: dev@struts.apache.org If we can't get the help from people in the user list, then I would say we do what you are suggesting, but we take it to the extreme a bit, meaning, that when we think the code is ready to be frozen

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Philip Luppens
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: that sounds good to me. If we just overwrite 2.1.8 then the mirrors will also be updated right? This is technically speaking 2.1.8. The answer to

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
I'm on Windows, and I did test it after you reported the failure. I tested it on Win with 7-zip, and didn't notice any errors... Nils-H Well, I did notice that the zips were malfunctioning (see my previous email), but I assumed it was a local problem (bad harddrive with many corrupted

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Musachy Barroso
I have always liked that option better, I don't see the point of calling GA something that has been tested for 3(+/-) days, instead of voting on something that has been in use for a couple of months and is known to be good for sure. When you say it is a policy, do you mean an Apache policy? or a

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wes Wannemacher w...@wantii.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a build

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Musachy Barroso
If we can't get the help from people in the user list, then I would say we do what you are suggesting, but we take it to the extreme a bit, meaning, that when we think the code is ready to be frozen for a release, we cut a build(with tag, staging repo and all) and let people in dev@ know about it,

zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
So, I was trying to figure out what is going on here because there are more problems with the zip than mentioned on the user@ list. Since I took site-deploy out of the release plugins default goals (to keep other artifacts from stomping the main struts.apache.org site), it had the unintended side

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Sorry, I meant 1.2.8 should be removed. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: If the artifacts are bad, version 1.2.8.1 should be deleted from the repository. What I've been reading on the Maven Developer's List, this kind of issue is probably the one

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
If the artifacts are bad, version 1.2.8.1 should be deleted from the repository. What I've been reading on the Maven Developer's List, this kind of issue is probably the one acceptable time to remove a version. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Wes Wannemacher w...@wantii.com wrote: So, I

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
Really, this doesn't affect maven, it is the zips (which I don't think are usable as maven dependencies). All of the jars are fine. I would suggest signing a new copy of the struts-2.1.8-docs.zip file, but since -all.zip also includes the contents, I figured that it's probably best to just start

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
that sounds good to me. If we just overwrite 2.1.8 then the mirrors will also be updated right? This is technically speaking 2.1.8. musachy On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Wes Wannemacher w...@wantii.com wrote: So, I was trying to figure out what is going on here because there are more

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Oh, okay. I misunderstood. If only the Apache distribution packages are messed up, go ahead and replace those. I don't think that calls for a new build. I had bad MD5 files before. I was asked to fix those on a release (after the mirrors received them), and I did. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I still advocate deleting the 2.1.8 binaries. Will that be done? Any bad distribution should get the shovel. As I understand it, there's nothing wrong with the artifacts in the Maven repo, and no reason to delete them.

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Wendy Smoak wsm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I still advocate deleting the 2.1.8 binaries. Will that be done? Any bad distribution should get the shovel. As I understand it, there's nothing wrong

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Wendy, I did say in a later email I wrongly believed we were talking about Maven repos. If it is just the Apache distributions, and those have bogus files, those should be deleted. Just can the whole release. I think that's sensible. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Wes Wannemacher

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
The whole release would be both the distribution zips and the Maven artifacts. If we're going to retract the release, we should retract *all* of it. I'm not in favor of that since the code is fine, we just have a packaging problem with the documentation. As I understand the proposed solution,

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Wendy, Your logic about repacking everything or nothing makes sense. Agreed. Lastly, unless there needs to be changes within SVN (like correcting Maven configuration to fix the build), I see no reason for a new release. Were there commits to fix something? If so, that satisfies me. Otherwise,

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: that sounds good to me. If we just overwrite 2.1.8 then the mirrors will also be updated right? This is technically speaking 2.1.8. The answer to that is maybe. Some mirrors will update, others will not. This is one of

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
. In fact, I would ask those who voted on 2.1.8 to look at how they tested before they voted, and perhaps think about ways in which they might change their testing so that we can catch something like this before it goes out in a release again. Hey my windows partition is just for playing

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
I was sort of thinking the same thing... I know I'll check the docs zip in the future, but I think it's a legitimate mistake that most of us aren't looking in the docs zip (since we've all already read them all, cover to cover, right?) :) -Wes On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Musachy Barroso

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it a GA. Is there any practical reason? or is it just the way it has always been done? musahcy On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Wes Wannemacher w...@wantii.com

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Musachy, Policy is that the user list is only notified for releases. For a release to occur, it needs at least 3 +1 binding votes. Maybe one option is to introduce a graded release promotion. First, eliminate the possibility to vote GA in the first round; it becomes either Beta or the version is

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it a GA. Is there any practical reason? or is it just the way it has always been

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it a GA. Is