Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jacob Todd wrote: > Well, (most) religion(s) has done nothing but provided a 'justifiable' reason > for > genocide. I don't know what propaganda/FUD you subscribe too, so I can't say > anything about *your* religion. I guess we know what propaganda/FUD *you* subscr

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Jacob Todd
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:04:07AM +0200, Uriel wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jacob Todd wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > >> ruled by a religion > > I thought you were a 'utopian philosopher'? Everyone knows that in a utopia > > there would be no religi

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Pinocchio wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:26:05 -0700, frederic wrote: > >> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:51:46 +0200, Uriel wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Pinocchio wrote: A few months ago lobobrowser.org caught my eye. Its a browser written in >

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Pinocchio
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:26:05 -0700, frederic wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:51:46 +0200, Uriel wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Pinocchio wrote: A few months ago lobobrowser.org caught my eye. Its a browser written in java (hold on... don't kick me off the list... :) ) but the thing I

Re: [dev] slides with troff (was: Talk about sane web browsers)

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
I have always used troff to generate really nice 4:3 landscape slides, but that is on Plan 9, I should put my macros and some examples in http://repo.cat-v.org but it really is not rocket science. uriel On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:53 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > [2009-09-07 01:27] Uriel >> >> Troff

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:34 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > [2009-09-07 22:05] Paul Malherbe >> >> >> --snip--- > > Your mail gets most likely redirected to /dev/null before he reads it. Indeed, what the fuck is up with retards using HTML email? uriel > > > meillo > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE--

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > [2009-09-07 11:50] Uriel >> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: >> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Uriel wrote: >> >> You can't have a "sane web browser"[1] with an insane rendering >> >> engine. All you are doing otherwise i

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jacob Todd wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Uriel wrote: >> ruled by a religion > I thought you were a 'utopian philosopher'? Everyone knows that in a utopia > there would be no religion. No religion? What is wrong with *my* religion? > Everything

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-09-07 22:05] Paul Malherbe > > > --snip--- Your mail gets most likely redirected to /dev/null before he reads it. meillo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Paul Malherbe
Bye Bye Regards Paul Uriel wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/9/7 frederic : So, the only way is to get rid of the whole "Web" stack and to rewrite a "sane" one. This would mean: Following Uriel's logic the

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread carmen
> Again, uzbl and surf developers are *not* 'browser programmers', they > are not writing any browsers, they are painting a very thin coat of > paint over existing turd browsers out there. why give up history autocompletion and go back to the dark ages of .ini file editing ? its the same turd in

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-09-07 21:47] Dieter Plaetinck > On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:35:50 +0200 > markus schnalke wrote: > > > > Read my slides, I clearly state this: Take the broken render engine as > > black box and add sane interfaces around. > > > (..) > > > > It's the web browser that complies better with the Un

Re: [dev] slides with troff (was: Talk about sane web browsers)

2009-09-07 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-09-07 01:27] Uriel > > Troff works great for generating slides. How? For me, (computer presentation) slides are pages in 4:3 landscape format. Unfortunately, I've not managed yet to generate such documents. `.pl 5i' lets the formated text only go half the page down, but the resulting PS

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:35:50 +0200 markus schnalke wrote: > > Read my slides, I clearly state this: Take the broken render engine as > black box and add sane interfaces around. > (..) > > It's the web browser that complies better with the Unix Philosophy > than any other I've seen. Only the re

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-09-07 11:50] Uriel > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Uriel wrote: > >> You can't have a "sane web browser"[1] with an insane rendering > >> engine. All you are doing otherwise is giving a turd another coat of > >> paint. > >> [1]: Of cou

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Uriel wrote: >> ruled by a religion > I thought you were a 'utopian philosopher'? Everyone knows that in a utopia > there would be no religion. Everything would be solved rationally. On Planet9 from Bell

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Jacob Todd
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > ruled by a religion I thought you were a 'utopian philosopher'? Everyone knows that in a utopia there would be no religion. Everything would be solved rationally. > uriel > -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpMMPuKjt9fQ.pgp

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > 2009/9/7 frederic : >> So, the only way is to get rid of the whole "Web" stack and to rewrite a >> "sane" one. This would mean: > > Following Uriel's logic the only way to get rid of the "Web" stack is > wether suicide or going to the forest

Re: [dev] dwm: suckless way to monitor work hours

2009-09-07 Thread Niklas Koponen
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Preben Randhol wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:07:47 +0300 > Niklas Koponen wrote: > >> My plan is to take a snaphot of the root window at certain intervals >> if there has been some mouse or keyboard activity. I also record the >> amount of activity. Then I store t

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/9/7 frederic : > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:51:46 +0200, Uriel wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Pinocchio wrote: >>> >>> A few months ago lobobrowser.org caught my eye. Its a browser written in >>> java (hold on... don't kick me off the list... :) ) but the thing I liked >>> about it w

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread frederic
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:51:46 +0200, Uriel wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Pinocchio wrote: A few months ago lobobrowser.org caught my eye. Its a browser written in java (hold on... don't kick me off the list... :) ) but the thing I liked about it was its support for alternative docum

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Pinocchio wrote: > A few months ago lobobrowser.org caught my eye. Its a browser written in > java (hold on... don't kick me off the list... :) ) but the thing I liked > about it was its support for alternative document formats. It supports > JavaFX out of the box an

Re: [dev] Talk about sane web browsers

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Uriel wrote: >> You can't have a "sane web browser"[1] with an insane rendering >> engine. All you are doing otherwise is giving a turd another coat of >> paint. >> >> At the moment my only hope for a minimally sane

Re: [dev] [surf] gtk key bindings

2009-09-07 Thread Uriel
Wrong, sane unix-like bindings are not "Emacs". The gnome people are ignorant retards and never learn, I told them this years ago. uriel On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Ramil Farkhshatov wrote: > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 10:53:14AM -0700, Ryan Zheng wrote: >> I've been meaning to send this one for

[dev] [surf] Remove unnecessary mkdir

2009-09-07 Thread pancake
diff -r 740f25ee1c92 surf.c --- a/surf.cMon Sep 07 11:02:26 2009 +0200 +++ b/surf.cMon Sep 07 11:15:10 2009 +0200 @@ -661,8 +661,6 @@ /* make dirs */ home = g_get_home_dir(); - filename = g_build_filename(home, ".surf", NULL); - g_mkdir_with_parents(filename,

Re: [dev] [surf] gtk key bindings

2009-09-07 Thread Ramil Farkhshatov
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 10:53:14AM -0700, Ryan Zheng wrote: > I've been meaning to send this one for a while now. It adds some > bindings to the urlbar and searchbar (c-h, c-w, c-u for deleting, c-b, > c-e for home/end). Not sure how it should be changed now that there's > a config.h It can be aco