of the language and not a domain concept/area/... .
you can ask the same question you mentioned about interfaces, enums,
exceptions,...
regards,
gerhard
2014-12-03 16:32 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
There are even a few cases like Java Batch JSR (353) where
/log4j-core/apidocs/org/apache/logging/log4j/core/config/package-summary.html
Maybe dreaming a bit now, but a future Log4J 2.x version could/should use
Tamaya there. At least if we do this right;-)
Werner
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Similar
PM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com
wrote:
light is the key I guess
Romain Manni-Bucau
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https://github.com/rmannibucau
2014-12-04 15:03 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
While I totally agree
While using XML a lot of it can be found that Multiconf did in Python.
(I am pretty sure most of Spring Config still uses plenty of XML, too, in
theory similar to Multiconf it could use a Groovy DSL, maybe if Pivotal
used Tamaya some day and the Groovy experts here considered such DSL a
worthy
Hi,
Probably more important than config subsystems in JSR 107 or Log4J 2
(though it altogether got a really good rewrite making any effort for a
Logging JSR by some people almost pointless;-) seems a massive redesign
and recent activity of Apache Commons Logging 2:
for some of the core concepts that look fairly neat in Commons
Config 2 (I worked with V1 in a few projects, it was a bit complex but
doable)
Werner
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Probably more important than config subsystems in JSR 107 or Log4J 2
at least EE 7 will remain the same joke and empty phrase in Tamaya as
it does there (or in the PR of most large companies including Oracle;-D)
Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR 363 Co Spec Lead |
Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer | Advisory
Board Member, DWX
One could merge *Stage *and *Environment*, see Multiconf, but abusing *Stage
*to model *Environment *seems rather pointless.
Werner
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote:
About stage: we have enough stage outside tje config to use it without
What do you mean
sense only when we'll support distribution
which is far to be the case so we can maybe drop it for now.
Romain Manni-Bucau
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2014-12-04 16:11 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com
/rmannibucau
2014-12-04 16:11 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
One could merge *Stage *and *Environment*, see Multiconf, but abusing
*Stage
*to model *Environment *seems rather pointless.
Werner
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com
wrote
You may have noticed, the very important annot point was also bent
beyond recognition with other sometimes random topics. Maybe somebody
should simply have created a separate thread or replied elsewhere;-)
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Well
;). Currently it
is really a mess. Basically we discuss 2 things as of now, and I suggest to
postpone other topics a bit, so we keep control...
-Anatole
2014-12-04 16:31 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
You may have noticed, the very important annot point was also bent
beyond
we can just benefit from discussing
and reviewing topics step by step.
regards,
gerhard
2014-12-04 16:49 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
About Commons Config, I am not sure, if he's still involved, but given
Geir
was also elected into the JCP EC I should be able to chat
a lot.
afaik we aren't in a rush and therefore we can just benefit from
discussing
and reviewing topics step by step.
regards,
gerhard
2014-12-04 16:49 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
About Commons Config, I am not sure, if he's still involved, but given
Geir
was also
. In one of the earlier discussion
I proposed
new Configuration()
Static methods are great for small helper methods. But they become
problematic if you would like to test code and to substitute their
funtionality with mocks.
Best,
Oliver
Am 04.12.14 15:45, schrieb Werner Keil:
Hi
the same issue in the beginning.
once we did reviews and discussions step by step, the quality as well as
the quantity of comments increased.
regards,
gerhard
2014-12-04 17:04 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
And rush, what rush?
Unless of course you consider it a race with e.g
I would go a bit beyond a simple ConfigFormat based on the experience
with Multiconf in a very large Cloud environment.
What was used there aside from obvious (JSON) data exchange or output one
might consider format is more towards ConfigReport or whatever you
might call that.
We used Asciidoc and
Hi,
Looking not only at Java EE (http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/) you'll
find plenty of packages from javax.annotation to
javax.servlet.annotation, etc.
I already raised this to Anatole before Tamaya, that
org.apache.tamaya.annot should be called org.apache.tamaya.annotation,
too.
Anybody
- the reader can be implemented in any way. The
implementation can decide, if (explit) formats are supported, eg:
reader:[format]foo. Therefore I moved the format part to the implementation
completely...
Other opinions?
Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com schrieb am Mi., 3. Dez. 2014 um 14:35:
What
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https://github.com/rmannibucau
2014-12-03 15:13 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
Well, there are 10 annotations now in the annot package right now. I
would not want to clutter the top level with too many things, unless we
reduce the annotations to 2 or 3 it seems better
: Werner Keil [mailto:werner.k...@gmail.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014 15:25
To: dev@tamaya.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: annotation instead of annot
See DeviceMap that's an option, too.
A whole lot of JSRs do provide dedicated annotation or exception
packages, but if we grouped
provided as secondary part in the beginning).
regards,
gerhard
2014-12-03 15:25 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
See DeviceMap that's an option, too.
A whole lot of JSRs do provide dedicated annotation or exception
packages, but if we grouped it into some logical
create packages like classes,
interfaces,...)
using an own package for annotations was modern with java 5 (since they
were provided as secondary part in the beginning).
regards,
gerhard
2014-12-03 15:25 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com:
See DeviceMap that's an option, too
Thanks, is the {Name} at the beginning deliberate, something only GitHub
shows, or a bug in the code?
Werner
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Anatole Tresch anat...@apache.org wrote:
Hi all
find following an additional part of use cases for comment. Note that this
area IMO definitively may
Ok, so at least when generated into common output formats it won't show?;-)
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Oliver B. Fischer o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net
wrote:
It is a variable of Asciidoctor, defined in the top level document.
Am 02.12.14 14:14, schrieb Werner Keil:
Thanks
. In other places ME 8 uses of() where appropriate.
So at least getInstance() is neither outdated nor wrong, it just depends on
what you return.
If Configuration returns just a default instance then
Configuration.getInstance() seems appropriate.
Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR
Haven't looked into it in so much detail, but what I saw from the JCache
JSR it also defines just a single service interface in SPI which then gets
applied via the usual Java Service Provider mechanism.
JSR 363 leaves it a bit more flexible (as ME 8 knows a slight variation of
that via LIBlets
Hi,
Will anybody be at FOSDEM? I heard via LJC about it and CFP for Developer
Rooms ends today:
https://fosdem.org/2015/news/2014-09-30-accepted-devrooms/
There is one for Configuration Management, could be a good match for Tamaya.
Regards,
Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR
I proposed two other sessions for devrooms:
https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15
@Anatole/others would anybody consider a Tamaya proposal?
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Will anybody be at FOSDEM? I heard via LJC about it and CFP
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