Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
On Feb 12, 2008 11:45 AM, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like Howard because his genuine care for developers always shows > through the API's he creates. It'd be nice if more developers did > this but that's just how it islots of people suck =p Thanks, Jesse, I do try to do all

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-2156) Provide something like tapestry-blank.war

2008-02-12 Thread Igor Drobiazko (JIRA)
Provide something like tapestry-blank.war - Key: TAPESTRY-2156 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2156 Project: Tapestry Issue Type: Improvement Components: Examples Affe

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Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
On 12-Feb-08, at 14:21 , Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Creating a good build is a difficult challenge for most developers. I think the majority of devs who take a crack at a build system are handicapped by not knowing what they don't know. True. Probably the reason I did gravitate towards maven (

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread David Bergman
An advice: Jesse, maybe you should wait with further comments till you have gathered properly working versions of plugins (again); I know how it is in "the heat of the moment." Then again, the Maven guys could very well suck, objectively, but I think a sound discussion about that - and abou

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
I like Howard because his genuine care for developers always shows through the API's he creates. It'd be nice if more developers did this but that's just how it islots of people suck =p On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Fernando Padilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe there is an 80/20 rul

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Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Fernando Padilla
Maybe there is an 80/20 rule at play here, but I've always been pretty happy with maven. But I suppose I'm not pushing the envelope that much, and maven is probably a god-send for most projects. :) Funny I just drew a parallel to Maven and IoC systems like Spring: Industry standards that How

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-2155) HTTP Expires Header incorrect for static asset resources

2008-02-12 Thread Bastian Voigt (JIRA)
HTTP Expires Header incorrect for static asset resources Key: TAPESTRY-2155 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2155 Project: Tapestry Issue Type: Bug Compone

Re: svn commit: r627032 - /tapestry/tapestry-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/committers.xml

2008-02-12 Thread Kevin Menard
Sorry about that. I got a little overzealous and did things out of sequence. -- Kevin On 2/12/08 2:12 PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jesse Kuhnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you may need to subscribe your apache email address to the > tapestry dev list as you suspected. Despit

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Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
On Feb 12, 2008 11:16 AM, Christian Edward Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True. You can always stop using maven. My problem with that (purely > in my own experience) is that it replace the gawd-aweful 50K-worth-of- > ant-scripts/make-files I've inherited. The notion of a stable > lifecycle

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Yeahthat is the sad part. Finding a suitable replacement. Makes it even easier to hate it this way. On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Christian Edward Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's just after > having built build system after build system in *make/jam/ant, and > seen the crap

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
True. You can always stop using maven. My problem with that (purely in my own experience) is that it replace the gawd-aweful 50K-worth-of- ant-scripts/make-files I've inherited. The notion of a stable lifecycle (even if I have to do more work to lock down the plugins) ends up being more t

Re: svn commit: r627032 - /tapestry/tapestry-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/committers.xml

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
I think you may need to subscribe your apache email address to the tapestry dev list as you suspected. Despite the helpful advice I've received on how to make accepting an email address permanently work I've yet to figure out how to do it and must manually approve every commit email message receiv

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-2037) NullPointerException caused by many rapid page refreshes

2008-02-12 Thread Robert Zeigler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12568294#action_12568294 ] Robert Zeigler commented on TAPESTRY-2037: -- I'll try out 5.0.11-SNAPSHOT and se

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Hehe...Nice try. ;) Tell that to the books and articles page here: http://tapestry.apache.org/articles.html I tried every single released site plugin version available to get my image style attributes to stick without success. It seems to have recently been fixed "magically" - but locking down

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On Feb 12, 2008 8:44 AM, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They don't do any reasonable amount of testing at all. I used a > released and theoretically stable plugin (is in the core ibiblio repo) > and it just flat out didn't work. Whereas I don't disagree with you that the plugins (esp

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-1764) provide access to component parameters from within mixins

2008-02-12 Thread Kevin Menard (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1764?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12568265#action_12568265 ] Kevin Menard commented on TAPESTRY-1764: Aforementioned thread: http://markmail.

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-1764) provide access to component parameters from within mixins

2008-02-12 Thread Kevin Menard (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1764?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12568262#action_12568262 ] Kevin Menard commented on TAPESTRY-1764: I meant to add in my two cents on this

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry Release 5.0.10

2008-02-12 Thread Kevin Menard
+1 (non-binding) I just tested out the new datepicker ... It's not as pretty as the old one, but appears to be easier to style. So, all in all, not so bad. So far, the fix for Tapestry-2085 looks to be working well, too. I think this is going to make a lot of people happy again. -- Kevin On

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-1764) provide access to component parameters from within mixins

2008-02-12 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1764?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12568216#action_12568216 ] Howard M. Lewis Ship commented on TAPESTRY-1764: My concern here is that

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Yeah, that sounds reasonable in theory but I've seen these nice guys do their thing first hand while contributing code back to the project. They don't do any reasonable amount of testing at all. I used a released and theoretically stable plugin (is in the core ibiblio repo) and it just flat out

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
This very issue is at the core of current design decisions for both Maven 2.1 and updates along the 2.0.x branch. They're pretty close to finding a decent way to stabilize plugin sets. I suspect by next release of 2.0.x there will be a "default set" of plugins for that version of maven t

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-1431) Changing org.apache.tapestry.renderTags config property breaks Exception page

2008-02-12 Thread Robert J. Walker (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1431?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12568191#action_12568191 ] Robert J. Walker commented on TAPESTRY-1431: Here you go: https://issues.ap

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-2154) Make org.apache.tapestry.renderTags work at a library level

2008-02-12 Thread Robert J. Walker (JIRA)
Make org.apache.tapestry.renderTags work at a library level --- Key: TAPESTRY-2154 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2154 Project: Tapestry Issue Type: Improvement

Re: f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
...seems to be fixable by reverting site plugin to beta-5. Hooray for gross incompetence. maven fail (is funnier if you've seen that web site about different kinds of failures) On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a warnin

f-ed by maven again...

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Just a warning that something funky seems to have happened lately as we've lost the majority of documentation for anything not on the main Tapestry 4.1 site. (ie core / contrib / annotations / etc) You can see this if you click on "Tapestry Core / Contrib" from the left hand menu on the 4.1 site

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry Release 5.0.10

2008-02-12 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Jesse Kuhnert: +1 (binding) On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.10, ready to be voted > upon. > > I really wanted this one to get out as it addresses the LGPL conflict > for the DateField. I've swit

[jira] Updated: (TAPESTRY-2116) @Retain and @Persist should generate a setter and/or getter for the decorated field

2008-02-12 Thread Davor Hrg (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2116?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Davor Hrg updated TAPESTRY-2116: Attachment: TAPESTRY-2116-V2.patch I've looked again in the source and found that you manualy sk

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-2153) New attribute for BeanEditForm, "disabled", like "remove" and "reorder"

2008-02-12 Thread Marcus (JIRA)
New attribute for BeanEditForm, "disabled", like "remove" and "reorder" --- Key: TAPESTRY-2153 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2153 Project: Tapestry Iss

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry Release 5.0.10

2008-02-12 Thread Igor Drobiazko
Igor Drobiazko (non-binding) On Feb 12, 2008 12:08 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.10, ready to be voted > upon. > > I really wanted this one to get out as it addresses the LGPL conflict > for the DateField. I've switched the

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-2152) Wrong menu & links for tapestry-annotations and tapestry-contrib site

2008-02-12 Thread Andreas Andreou (JIRA)
Wrong menu & links for tapestry-annotations and tapestry-contrib site - Key: TAPESTRY-2152 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2152 Project: Tapestry Issue T

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-2143) Framework should include an email validator

2008-02-12 Thread Hugo Palma (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2143?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12568043#action_12568043 ] Hugo Palma commented on TAPESTRY-2143: -- Forgot to include the message with key "inv

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry Release 5.0.10

2008-02-12 Thread Ted Steen
Ted Steen +1 (non-binding) 2008/2/12, Davor Hrg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Davor Hrg +1 (non-binding) > > On Feb 12, 2008 12:08 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.10, ready to be > voted upon. > > > > I really wanted this one to g

[Tapestry Wiki] Update of "Tapestry5HowToRunTaskInThread" by DavorHrg

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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry Release 5.0.10

2008-02-12 Thread Davor Hrg
Davor Hrg +1 (non-binding) On Feb 12, 2008 12:08 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.10, ready to be voted > upon. > > I really wanted this one to get out as it addresses the LGPL conflict > for the DateField. I've switched the l

Re: [SUCCESS] Add Kevin Menard as a Tapestry Committer

2008-02-12 Thread Gabriel Landais
Kevin Menard a écrit : Anyway, thanks again. It's an honor to join the project. Hi, You should also add your informations in pom.xml as a developer ;) I've seen other comitter added recently, not sure they have done it yet. Thanks for your work -- Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.c