Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Cesar Hernandez
> > IMO the following is the best way: > - branch 8.0.x > - make master 9.0 and rename javax -> jakarta > - branch 9.0 after everything is working fine > - working on 10.0 in master > - maintain 8.0 and 10.0 and dont maintain the 9.0 branch +1 In terms of how we handle 9.x, I think we'd want to

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread David Blevins
> On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:59 AM, Thomas Andraschko > wrote: > > yep > i think we have to maintain 8.0.x anyway as its the last javax release and > we cant expect that everyone does a fast migration > > IMO the following is the best way: > - branch 8.0.x > - make master 9.0 and rename javax -> jaka

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Wiesner, Martin
Hi all, the proposed plan by Thomas sounds reasonable. +1 IMHO, 8.0.x line should definitely be continued for those not able to migrate yet, as brought up by Jean-Louis. Given the planned 8.0.9 version will compatible and work with Java 17 (LTS), that 8.0.x line should be curated for some time.

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro
Thanks for the additional thoughts Thomas. I'll wait for some more thoughts and I might create a poll and let everyone to vote on what they like. -- Jean-Louis Monteiro http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro http://www.tomitribe.com On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 10:59 AM Thomas Andraschko < andraschko.tho..

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Thomas Andraschko
yep i think we have to maintain 8.0.x anyway as its the last javax release and we cant expect that everyone does a fast migration IMO the following is the best way: - branch 8.0.x - make master 9.0 and rename javax -> jakarta - branch 9.0 after everything is working fine - working on 10.0 in maste

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro
Agreed ... 1.7.x - EOL 7.0.x and 7.1.x - mostly similar so if we maintain one, we should maintain the other. But I agree that 1 actively developed version (TomEE master/TomEE 9.x) and 1 maintained version (TomEE 8.x) is good. That'd be my choice. -- Jean-Louis Monteiro http://twitter.com/jlouismo

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Zowalla, Richard
+1 I am wondering, if we still maintain 7.0.x, 7.1.x in the future (1.7.x is eol, I guess) ? Maintenance cost will rise with every additional version branch. The last releases of 7.0.x and 7.1.x are 1 year old... but this is maybe another discussion. Am Dienstag, dem 05.10.2021 um 10:05 +0200 s

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-05 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro
Thanks everyone. Same feeling here. I think we tried and pushed it as much as we could. What we can do is make sure we fix remaining failures on TCK and support JDK 17 with TomEE. Do a release, branch for maintenance and move master to jakarta. Does it sound like an acceptable plan? -- Jean-Lou

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-04 Thread David Jencks
Maybe even “Our second release _confirmed_…”… David Jencks > On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:33 PM, David Blevins wrote: > >> - Our first release proved releasing both 8 & 9 together can be impractical. >> The TomEE 8 binaries were a dud, only TomEE 9 was released. There was >> communication overhead

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-04 Thread David Blevins
> - Our first release proved releasing both 8 & 9 together can be impractical. > The TomEE 8 binaries were a dud, only TomEE 9 was released. There was > communication overhead and made for a potentially confusing release. The > TomEE 9 binaries are still very limited. > > - Our first release

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-04 Thread David Blevins
> On Oct 1, 2021, at 4:25 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro > wrote: > > I was about to add that into tomee-jakarta by having the same approach so > we don't have the cost of maintaining both TomEE 8 and TomEE source tree. > > But looks like to do that we end up by duplicating pretty much the entire > To

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-04 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro
It's a bit of a chicken and the egg issue. We could target EE 9 as well. The point is we have to duplicate a lot of modules from master to tomee-jakarta project and configure the transformer to do package relocation. Works but quite heavy if we want to cover everything. If we decide to move maste

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-04 Thread Zowalla, Richard
I agree with Thomas. We are not migrating to EE9 (with TomEE) as we are missing the plugins, unit-test containers, arquillian integration, etc. - I guess, the next one will be EE10 to aim for. Gruss Richard Am Freitag, dem 01.10.2021 um 13:40 +0200 schrieb Thomas Andraschko: > TBH we have to mi

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-01 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 1:40 PM Thomas Andraschko < andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > TBH we have to migrate to jakarta anyway. Targeting EE9 or EE10. > That's my point. We'll have to do it someday. > > IMO the most people dont care about EE9, so i would branch/tag EE9 on the > road to EE10

Re: TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-01 Thread Thomas Andraschko
TBH we have to migrate to jakarta anyway. Targeting EE9 or EE10. IMO the most people dont care about EE9, so i would branch/tag EE9 on the road to EE10 but never maintain or release it. Also not sure about the exact timeline, when we should start to migrate. Am Fr., 1. Okt. 2021 um 13:25 Uhr

TomEE Jakarta project - have we reach the limit?

2021-10-01 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro
Hi all, I was looking at a way to do a final release of TomEE 9 but we have some significant work before we can do that. - arquillian integration - standalone and lite distributions - Maven plugins - boms I was about to add that into tomee-jakarta by having the same approach so we don't have the