BarCamp - Session3 - Cloud

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Laws
SCA allows you to define an application without knowing where things are There is a difference between this kind of abstraction and cloud elasticity when could allows for multiple copies of a component to be deployed Stateless components and elasticity Just moving component is not so hard as our

BarCamp - Session4 - Build Structure

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Laws
We currently release the trunk as one thing, i.e. one distribution we allow people to delete things of course but it's not easy as you can tell what is required in modules for any particular feature We talked around various options Separate modules Shaded jars including 3rd party

Re: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3664) Add holder support to 2.x

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Laws
Well I guess we need to be a bit more precise about what the likely impact is. IIUC from the commit the model is that the JDKInvoker and implementation invoker implement the transition between the local (to them) component implementation and Tuscany's internal representation of holders. Between

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread Florian MOGA
This morning Ant, Simon L, Kelvin and I had a chat about the samples structure. We experimented with it at location [1]. The structure is basically the following: |-applications |---logging-scribe |---store |---store-webapp |-extending-tuscany |---implementation-sample

Re: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3664) Add holder support to 2.x

2010-09-20 Thread Brent Daniel
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Simon Laws simonsl...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I guess we need to be a bit more precise about what the likely impact is. IIUC from the commit the model is that the JDKInvoker and implementation invoker implement the transition between the local (to them)

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Laws
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Florian MOGA moga@gmail.com wrote: This morning Ant, Simon L, Kelvin and I had a chat about the samples structure. We experimented with it at location [1]. The structure is basically the following:    |-applications    |---logging-scribe    |---store   

Re: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3664) Add holder support to 2.x

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Laws
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Brent Daniel brenthdan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Simon Laws simonsl...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I guess we need to be a bit more precise about what the likely impact is. IIUC from the commit the model is that the JDKInvoker and

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread Florian MOGA
I believe having those differentiated will make people aware of the relation between sca and tuscany. 'sca-features' and 'sca-extensions' try to make this distinction. Probably 'sca-features' and 'tuscany-features' would be best for us but they are confusing for somebody that is just starting to

Re: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3664) Add holder support to 2.x

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Kurz
Ah right, I see. Hmmm. I'm afraid I don't have a quick answer to this other than stepping through each part of the infrastructure and setting out what adding multiple return types implies. Simon So if we look at my earlier example, mapping return value(s) for binding.jms wf.jmsObject to an

Re: BarCamp - Session3 - Cloud

2010-09-20 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Simon Laws simonsl...@googlemail.com wrote: SCA allows you to define an application without knowing where things are There is a difference between this kind of abstraction and cloud elasticity when could allows for multiple copies of a component to be deployed

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Florian MOGA moga@gmail.com wrote: I believe having those differentiated will make people aware of the relation between sca and tuscany. 'sca-features' and 'sca-extensions' try to make this distinction. Probably 'sca-features' and 'tuscany-features' would be

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Florian MOGA moga@gmail.com wrote: I believe having those differentiated will make people aware of the relation between sca and tuscany. 'sca-features' and 'sca-extensions' try to

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:19 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Florian MOGA moga@gmail.com wrote: I believe having those differentiated will make people aware of the

Re: samples again

2010-09-20 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:19 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Florian MOGA moga@gmail.com