Re: Doing another 2.x release in a few weeks?

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Simon Laws wrote: > How about we start to making progress on the Beta release again... > > Things are looking ok I believe from an otest point of view. > We've had discussion about the samples and that looks to be shaping up. > We've also had disscussion about the

Re: Doing another 2.x release in a few weeks?

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:29 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Simon Laws wrote: >> How about we start to making progress on the Beta release again... >> >> Things are looking ok I believe from an otest point of view. >> We've had discussion about the samples and that looks

Re: samples again

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Florian MOGA wrote: > From what I understand node.xml would be the final configuration that you > would export from the shell after adding/installing all the > contributributions (please correct me if i'm wrong). Yep thats what i was thinking would be useful. > W

Re: How to get services and references from composite in a custom implementation

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Fabio Albani wrote: > Hi to all, > I'm developing a new implementation type for Tuscany 1.x, based on ASM, I've > been successfully in calling services and introspecting references and > properties, but I don't know how to get the current wiring from the running >

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Simon Laws wrote: > Ok well I've published a snapshot of our maven-bundle-plugin that > allows us to generate some more meta-data for the binary distro. The > snapshot is not synched yet to the Nexus repo so I haven't committed > the distro poms that allow you to b

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Raymond Feng wrote: > To me, the "extension" is just a "feature" that contains only the modules > that make up the "extension" :-). What is the point in that? We call them extensions everywhere else (doc, spec, code, website etc), so it seems simpler to not obfusc

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Raymond Feng wrote: > To me, the "extension" is just a "feature" that contains only the modules > that make up the "extension" :-). For example, I can model the binding.ws > extension as feature-binding-ws (a pom project that list feature-base, > binding-ws, bindin

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Simon Laws wrote: > > There is an issue though. The extension meta-data repeats all the > dependencies that base provides. This actually doesn't make a > difference because the duplicates don't have a material impact on the > classpath (other than we might generat

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Raymond Feng wrote: >> To me, the "extension" is just a "feature" that contains only the modules >> that make up the "extension" :-). > > What is the point in that? We call them extensions everywhere else > (doc,

Re: svn commit: r1002694 - in /tuscany/sca-java-2.x/trunk/modules/node-api/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/node/configuration: ContributionConfiguration.java impl/ContributionConfigurationImpl.ja

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
I can. Its so we have enough control to easily support all the valid usages of contributions and combinations of contributions. Eg, take a look at samples/getting-started/scdl-include, theres no doc or readme yet but it uses two contributions, helloworld and scdl-include, presently you can't easily

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:06 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Simon Laws wrote: > >> >> There is an issue though. The extension meta-data repeats all the >> dependencies that base provides. This actually doesn't make a >> difference because the duplicates don't have a mater

Re: samples again

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Ant, I've been looking around and seen that node.xml is actually something already existing. Is this something we added or is it in the spec as well? Indeed, it would add consistency if you can generate and load node.xml as well. The "run" command is exactly what I'm suggesting as well as the sta

Re: Doing another 2.x release in a few weeks?

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Given the fact that in about one week or so we are about to finish technical tasks like the jsonp binding, the shell, etc. I think it is a good time to do the release but not before we do the distribution cleanup. If we want to improve our release process we'll need a clean, simple and organized pl

Re: samples again

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
It's been a full day since I've proposed the *-contribution renaming and no negative reactions so I'll proceed with doing the changes tomorrow morning. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Florian MOGA wrote: > Ant, > > I've been looking around and seen that node.xml is actually something > already

Re: Doing another 2.x release in a few weeks?

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
I agree with all those suggestions. ...ant On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Florian MOGA wrote: > Given the fact that in about one week or so we are about to finish technical > tasks like the jsonp binding, the shell, etc. I think it is a good time to > do the release but not before we do the

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
Simon Laws wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:06 AM, ant elder wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Simon Laws wrote: There is an issue though. The extension meta-data repeats all the dependencies that base provides. This actually doesn't make a difference because the duplicates don't have

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
Simon Nash wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:06 AM, ant elder wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Simon Laws wrote: There is an issue though. The extension meta-data repeats all the dependencies that base provides. This actually doesn't make a difference because the du

Re: How to get services and references from composite in a custom implementation

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Fabio Albani wrote: Hi to all, I'm developing a new implementation type for Tuscany 1.x, based on ASM, I've been successfully in calling services and introspecting references and properties, but I don't know how to get the current wiring from t

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
>> I think this will be difficult if the base is made up of a large number >> of jars and poms.  AIUI the exlude list would have to name all the poms >> in the base.  If the list of poms in the base ever changes then all the >> exclude lists would have to change as well. >> >> A simple solution wou

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Simon Laws wrote: >>> I think this will be difficult if the base is made up of a large number >>> of jars and poms.  AIUI the exlude list would have to name all the poms >>> in the base.  If the list of poms in the base ever changes then all the >>> exclude lists

Re: samples again

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Florian MOGA wrote: > Ant, > I've been looking around and seen that node.xml is actually something > already existing. Is this something we added or is it in the spec as well? No the spec doesn't define anything for this, its one of those areas where they've left

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trach of runtime exceptions

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
JMS Binding erases the stack trach of runtime exceptions Key: TUSCANY-3698 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: Bug Components

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Padraig Myers updated TUSCANY-3698: --- Summary: JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's (was: JMS Binding erases

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Padraig Myers updated TUSCANY-3698: --- Attachment: Patch_TUSCANY-3698 Patch to fix the specified bug > JMS Binding erases the sta

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Padraig Myers updated TUSCANY-3698: --- Description: In the file org.apache.tuscany.sca.binding.jms.provider.AbstractMessageProces

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Simon Laws wrote: I think this will be difficult if the base is made up of a large number of jars and poms. AIUI the exlude list would have to name all the poms in the base. If the list of poms in the base ever changes then all the exclude li

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Since we're cleaning up things I took a look again at the JIRA Categories. I propose simply having: Java SCA Java SDO Java DAS C++ SCA C++ SDO C++ DAS OASIS Tools (including Hudson, Maven, SVN issues) Website/Documentation User Questions Ideas instead of having ~30 categories which nobody uses...

Re: [1.6.1] Replacing download.java.net by mirrors.ibiblio.org

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Simon Nash wrote: >> I tried the "brute force" approach today.  Without any changes to the >> repository definitions in the poms I ran the top-level build and killed it >> when it hit a "hung" download.  I

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Scott Kurz (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916454#action_12916454 ] Scott Kurz commented on TUSCANY-3698: - The original behavior was the design, (sort of

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Brent Daniel
+1 on the shortened list of JIRA categories. The current granularity doesn't seem to be all that helpful. I'm not sure if there needs to be a separate section for user questions -- with the shortened list it should be possible for even the newest of users to find a home for a JIRA. Similarly for "I

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916459#action_12916459 ] Padraig Myers commented on TUSCANY-3698: The problem here isn't so much that we a

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916464#action_12916464 ] ant elder commented on TUSCANY-3698: Padraig, i think the issue is that we don't know

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Hi Brent, The idea for the User folder is that it would help us avoid issues being assigned to the wrong category (might not be the case for such general categories) but most important user reported issues will go through a triage phase and become "official" issues after we take a look at them. It

Re: [1.6.1] Replacing download.java.net by mirrors.ibiblio.org

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Simon Nash wrote: >>> I tried the "brute force" approach today.  Without any changes to the >>> repository definitions in the poms I ran the top-level b

JavaOne 2010 Tuscany related session

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Hi guys, How did the JavaOne sessions go? Are there any photos/video available? What is the overall impression you have on the reaction of the attendees? Florian

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916505#action_12916505 ] Padraig Myers commented on TUSCANY-3698: Thanks for the quick replies guys. As I

[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916505#action_12916505 ] Padraig Myers edited comment on TUSCANY-3698 at 9/30/10 11:05 AM: -

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3699) samples/helloworld-ws-sdo README instructions are wrong and produce incorrect results

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash (JIRA)
samples/helloworld-ws-sdo README instructions are wrong and produce incorrect results - Key: TUSCANY-3699 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3699 Proj

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3700) samples/photo-gallery index and slideshow buttons don't work

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash (JIRA)
samples/photo-gallery index and slideshow buttons don't work Key: TUSCANY-3700 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3700 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: Bug Co

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
What about a Samples category as well? On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Florian MOGA wrote: > Hi Brent, > > The idea for the User folder is that it would help us avoid issues being > assigned to the wrong category (might not be the case for such general > categories) but most important user rep

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Scott Kurz (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Scott Kurz updated TUSCANY-3698: Attachment: 3698.skurz.patch I guess we could add the stack trace, element by element, to message

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Florian MOGA wrote: > What about a Samples category as well? > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Florian MOGA wrote: >> >> Hi Brent, >> The idea for the User folder is that it would help us avoid issues being >> assigned to the wrong category (might not be the ca

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Good remark, didn't know about it. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Simon Laws wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Florian MOGA wrote: > > What about a Samples category as well? > > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Florian MOGA > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Brent, > >> The idea for the User f

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916535#action_12916535 ] Padraig Myers commented on TUSCANY-3698: I don't think there's a need to loop thr

Re: [jira] Created: (TUSCANY-3674) Review/consolidate 2.x distribution structure

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Laws
>>> >>> Well it would work ok if the "base" remained as an "pom" type pom >>> which just groups together other modules. The only time this would >>> need rebuilding would be when the set of dependency jars change. Which >>> isn't very often. >>> >>> The question then remains whether you can exclude

Re: JavaOne 2010 Tuscany related session

2010-09-30 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, I added my session slides at the bottom of the following page. It will show up when the wiki site is synced over. http://tuscany.apache.org/tuscany-books-and-articles.html The databinding session was 8:00am in the morning and about 50 people showed up. It went well with good questions. Th

Re: svn commit: r1002694 - in /tuscany/sca-java-2.x/trunk/modules/node-api/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/node/configuration: ContributionConfiguration.java impl/ContributionConfigurationImpl.ja

2010-09-30 Thread Raymond Feng
1) If a contribution doesn't have sca-contribution.xml for the exports, all the artifacts should be private to the contribution (similar as an OSGi bundle that doesn't export any packages). We can only use it by attaching a deployment composite. I don't think we should change the visibility. 2

Re: JavaOne 2010 Tuscany related session

2010-09-30 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Raymond Feng wrote: > Hi, > I added my session slides at the bottom of the following page. It will show > up when the wiki site is synced over. > http://tuscany.apache.org/tuscany-books-and-articles.html > The databinding session was 8:00am in the morning and abou

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Padraig Myers updated TUSCANY-3698: --- Attachment: 3698.padraig.ver2.patch Sorry of course printStackTrace() wont work, sorry its

[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread Padraig Myers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916566#action_12916566 ] Padraig Myers edited comment on TUSCANY-3698 at 9/30/10 1:27 PM: --

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-3698) JMS Binding erases the stack trace of RuntimeException's

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3698?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12916578#action_12916578 ] ant elder commented on TUSCANY-3698: That sounds good to me too. I'll wait a little t

Re: [1.6.1] Replacing download.java.net by mirrors.ibiblio.org

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Simon Nash wrote: I tried the "brute force" approach today. Without any changes to the repository definitions in the poms I ran the top-level build and killed it when it hit a "hung" dow

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
Florian MOGA wrote: Since we're cleaning up things I took a look again at the JIRA Categories. I propose simply having: Java SCA Java SDO Java DAS C++ SCA C++ SDO C++ DAS OASIS Tools (including Hudson, Maven, SVN issues) Website/Documentation User Questions Ideas instead of having ~30 categori

Re: [1.6.1] Replacing download.java.net by mirrors.ibiblio.org

2010-09-30 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM, ant elder wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Simon Nash wrote: I tried the "brute force" approach today. Without any changes to the repository definitions in the poms I ran the to

Re: [1.6.1] Replacing download.java.net by mirrors.ibiblio.org

2010-09-30 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Simon Nash wrote: > ant elder wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM, ant elder wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Luciano Resende >>> wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Simon Nash wrote: > > I tried the "brute force" ap

Re: BarCamp - Session1 - JIRA cleanup discussion notes

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
Simon N, You are pointing out some good facts about which i can't express a realistic opinion given my limited experience in working on tuscany... I'll be following this thread with interest for opinions from the other tuscany people. The only observation I can make is that in this case we'll need

Re: JavaOne 2010 Tuscany related session

2010-09-30 Thread Florian MOGA
It's great seeing the positive reactions after the sessions! Can you also share with us other facts like observations on specific things that kept the attendees interested? That would be helpful to have in mind when working on improving the documentation/website. (that's one example, basically any