Re: [b2g] Merging dev-gaia and dev-b2g into dev-fxos

2015-08-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/08/15 09:08, J. Ryan Stinnett wrote: Maybe it's the wrong setup request? Service now says: For a Discussion Forum, which can be created as a mailing list on lists.mozilla.org, a newsgroup on news.mozilla.org or a public Google Group, please use this link: Oops, that's a bit busted. It

Re: [b2g] Do we have MozCamp in 2015?

2015-08-17 Thread Gervase Markham
On 16/08/15 21:36, bernard wrote: Or maybe attend Mozfest in London if you can get there? https://2015.mozillafestival.org/ Although note that MozFest is a rather different thing to what MozCamps used to be. Gerv ___ dev-b2g mailing list

Re: [b2g] List of patented behaviors

2015-07-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/07/15 17:09, Reza Akhavan wrote: I'm curious, do we have a list of common behaviors that are patented? Given that such a list could easily be interpreted as an opinion about the applicability of patents, making it would almost certainly fall foul of Lindholm's Law:

Re: [b2g] Addons for FirefoxOS

2015-06-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/06/15 14:38, Jonas Sicking wrote: I agree that we should enable addons to modify outgoing phone numbers in such a way that the user sees the modified phone number. However given that addons will be able to modify the dailer UI, there is no way we can ensure that the user sees what

Re: [b2g] Addons for FirefoxOS

2015-06-23 Thread Gervase Markham
On 22/06/15 16:21, Jonas Sicking wrote: ** Phone behavior ** One of the primary pieces of functionality of a smartphone is the phone. I.e. phone calls and SMS/MMS. While these are old and boring technologies, they are still heavily used. I think it would be great to add hooks to enable

Re: [b2g] Find My Phone

2015-02-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/02/15 20:20, Frederik Braun wrote: The idea is to use a FMD-specific key that is used to encrypt all communication between the phone and the user, so that our server is nothing more but a stupid relay. That would be great... but, as the bug notes, there is a trade-off between using kA

[b2g] Find My Phone

2015-02-23 Thread Gervase Markham
Cory Doctorow: Imagine a user-centric, data-centric, freedom-centric version of this security measure: all devices would have to be sold with encrypted filesystems by default, so that users whose phones are lost or stolen can be sure that their data is intact, that their bank accounts won’t be

Re: [b2g] Find My Phone

2015-02-23 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/02/15 17:33, Fabrice Desré wrote: The use case of FMD being that you lost your phone, we don't ask anything on device... Obviously not :-) So if the server side is compromised, yes you can wipe the device. That doesn't necessarily have to follow. Read Cory's article and see what he

Re: [b2g] Dogfooding Results

2014-12-17 Thread Gervase Markham
On 17/12/14 02:10, gkee...@mozilla.com wrote: The problem is the GPS chipset vendors. They have no interface to put downloaded AGPS info on the GPS chip (well QC does, they have a proprietary protocol for this). They are stuck in a mindset that mobile internet connections are not ubiquitous

Re: [b2g] Dogfooding Results

2014-12-16 Thread Gervase Markham
On 16/12/14 13:46, Donovan Preston wrote: I believe the problem with GPS is not one of configuration, it is one of licensing. The carriers have a license to use commercial AGPS and SUPL servers, but devices that are not shipped by a carrier do not have a license to use one. AGPS is just a way

Re: [b2g] native applications in firefox OS

2014-11-21 Thread Gervase Markham
On 20/11/14 03:13, vkval...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning to use that in firefox OS. I guess I need to use xpcom interface to access gecko api for device functionality. Any other caveats in this approach. Is this approach workable. Native applications are not supported on Firefox OS. Why

Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

2014-11-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/11/14 04:54, Dee wrote: * Changing volume control works even when no music is playing. This accidentaly changes the volume when the phone is in my pocket. And often it gets noiseless in this way and I do not hear it any more. There's good Android software called Volume Locker to deal

Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

2014-11-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/11/14 21:04, Asa Dotzler wrote: As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily driver (dogfooding) device. Can I briefly re-mention here that it would be a really awesome thing for a whole

[b2g] Support group for the Flame?

2014-09-11 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi, I have a Flame running 1.3, and want to upgrade it to 2.1: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame However, the instructions there aren't working for me (trying to flash the 1.3 base image - which the page says is necessary - leads to the phone rebooting

Re: [b2g] Support group for the Flame?

2014-09-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/09/14 12:30, Kumar Rishav wrote: fastboot devices Does it show ur device? No. That is, I can follow the instructions you give for getting into fastboot mode, but the fastboot devices command returns no output. Where should I get a good copy of fastboot? I appear to have one from October

Re: [b2g] Support group for the Flame?

2014-09-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/09/14 13:16, Gervase Markham wrote: On 11/09/14 12:30, Kumar Rishav wrote: fastboot devices Does it show ur device? No. Found the problem - I wasn't running the flash.sh script with sudo, so fastboot couldn't see my device. :-| Sorry to bother you. https://developer.mozilla.org/en

Re: [b2g] Proposal: Manage B2G.git scripts in a versioned repo

2014-08-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/08/14 19:06, John Ford wrote: a single source of truth about what built a given build through the on device manifest. Now _that_ I am in favour of. Full speed ahead! :-) Gerv ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org

Re: [b2g] Future of packaged apps

2014-06-23 Thread Gervase Markham
Another problem, which isn't packaging specific but that is still important, is how do we give a browsed-to app additional permissions over what webpages have. Currently permissions are created by the installation code, but that won't work for browsed-to privileged apps. But by seeing that

Re: [b2g] My Tarako's CPU never idles

2014-04-10 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/04/14 23:09, Dave Huseby wrote: dang, maybe I'm only allowed 1 attachment? Mozilla lists don't allow any attachments AFAIK. Gerv ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g

Re: [b2g] Maps on Firefox OS

2014-01-21 Thread Gervase Markham
On 20/01/14 19:33, Marek Raida wrote: Well, I've HERE Maps in Movistar FFOS Edition without option to delete the app (quite the opposite problem). As for the OpenScreetMaps = they are huge!!! and what's worse, every region has different hierarchies (in data), so I do not believe it to be

Re: [b2g] b2g, text/vnd.wap.wml and UX

2014-01-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 14/01/14 03:16, Karl Dubost wrote: When accessing Web sites, sometimes Firefox OS is identified as a basic feature phone and is being sent to the WAP site. (below an example of that) On Firefox OS, * the user gets a blank page. That's not very helpful. There should be a better way to

Re: [b2g] device mix names and code names

2013-11-04 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/11/13 11:27, Hubert Figuière wrote: I just boostrapped the page with the publicly available phones: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Phones Feel free to add to it :-) I don't know them all, but it would be great if that page also listed the codenames where

Re: [b2g] TTS Engine on Firefox OS

2013-10-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 10/10/13 15:57, Fabrice Desré wrote: We have a tts engine used for accessibility purposes (see https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webspeech/synth/) based on picotts. I'm cc-ing Eitan that knows this are way better. There is also interest in using eSpeak, if we can

Re: [b2g] Low device storage (notifying the user)

2013-09-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/09/13 19:31, Fernando Jiménez Moreno wrote: I think that we need to show a system notification (I'll let UX decide how the notification should look like) every time an user attempts to perform an action associated with a write in the data partition during a low storage situation (that is

Re: [b2g] devices for 1.2

2013-08-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 29/08/13 14:45, Hubert Figuière wrote: That would require the ZTE Open to be actually Open. It is not. You can't reflash them. My understanding is that you can, and we are working on instructions for doing so. Gerv ___ dev-b2g mailing list

Re: [b2g] devices for 1.2

2013-08-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/08/13 09:47, Gervase Markham wrote: On 29/08/13 14:45, Hubert Figuière wrote: That would require the ZTE Open to be actually Open. It is not. You can't reflash them. My understanding is that you can, and we are working on instructions for doing so. To expand, I am told that by next

Re: [b2g] New member

2013-08-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 26/08/13 07:53, MARINA RODRIGUEZ IGLESIAS wrote: our intranet and supporting internal clients. This is my first experience in a commercial product development and I'm very excited to become part of your community and participate in firefoxOS development. I'm sure we can learn a lot together

Re: [b2g] Anyone knows any manufacturer interested in manufacturing FireFox OS tablets?

2013-07-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/07/13 15:40, Icy Fox wrote: My company is a startup looking to market FireFox OS tablets starting in Brazil with plans to reach the rest of America eventually, and we're currently looking for a manufacturer interested in helping us produce the tablets for consumer use. Does anyone

Re: [b2g] Add-ons support for b2g

2013-07-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/07/13 08:07, Fabrice Desre wrote: Another item on the Engineering whislist that I think is crucial for b2g success is to add some kind of add-on support. Firefox's popularity is in no small part due to its add-on model that allows both customization and extensibility. How can we

Re: [b2g] Non-TEF geeksphone feedback.

2013-05-21 Thread Gervase Markham
On 21/05/13 00:49, Cheng Wang wrote: Lastly, given that we can't get build/device information automatically via the user agent, it's making my job very difficult, since there are now at least 6-7 builds out there, not to mention people using the emulator. I can't promise anything about how

Re: [b2g] Feedback from Telefonica internal dogfooding program

2013-04-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/04/13 07:52, Cheng Wang wrote: * Change user agent so we stop getting offered android apps The default UA does not contain the string Android; if they get offered Android apps, we need to know the sites concerned so we can either get them to fix their sniffing, or consider removing a UA

Re: [b2g] Building particular branches

2013-04-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/04/13 17:29, Dave Hylands wrote: You use the following: BRANCH=branch-name ./config.sh phone-name You can cd to B2G/.repo/manifests and do git branch -a to see the names of the branches: remotes/origin/master remotes/origin/v1-train remotes/origin/v1.0.0

Re: [b2g] Building particular branches

2013-04-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/04/13 16:30, Julien Wajsberg wrote: Out of curiosity, what is your license scanning script ? :) http://hg.mozilla.org/users/gerv_mozilla.org/relic/ It's what's used to produce our large open source licensing compliance document, which you can find in the legal section of Settings.

Re: [b2g] Building particular branches

2013-04-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/04/13 16:51, L. David Baron wrote: If the reason you're interested is license-scanning scripts, you should be aware that what device you configure for affects what code gets pulled. Can you elaborate a little bit? If the difference is device vs. emulator, that's OK, as I'm not so

[b2g] Firefox OS Public Information repository

2013-03-04 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi everyone, I often find myself wondering what I can and can't say about Firefox OS, and what has been announced publicly. I'm sure others are in the same position. So I thought it would be great if there was a page which summarised the public info on key topics such as announced partners,

[b2g] Branch info?

2013-02-27 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi B2G team, Where can I find info about what B2G branches there are, what they are for, and how much change is expected on each? (Motivation: If we get back into significant development, including e.g. importing code from outside the project, then the Open Source Licenses page needs to be

Re: [b2g] Participate in GSOC-2013

2013-02-25 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/02/13 13:53, Yash Shah wrote: Hi, I keep looking gsoc 2013 ideas page which is not yet updated. So I keep looking in brainstorming page. But the Mentor Reporter's Contacts are never there. So Not able to contact anyone. So It would be very fine if this website provides atleast his email

Re: [b2g] Participate in GSOC-2013

2013-02-22 Thread Gervase Markham
On 22/02/13 06:06, Yash Shah wrote: Hi, I am 2nd Year B.Tech Student from DAIICT Ganghinagar ( India ). I have very good knowledge of Current Web Technologies ( HTML, CSS, PHP, Javascript, XML, Python, Django, Ajax, JQuery ). I am very much interested to participate in GSOC for Mozilla and

Re: [b2g] Patch to make the Hotspot password random (Bug 797661)

2013-01-18 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/01/13 09:47, Jonas Sicking wrote: [2] http://xkcd.com/936/ I thought of that also, and I presume Stefan didn't go for it because we'd have to ship a wordlist. If, however, we are already doing so (e.g. for spell-checking or the keyboard) then I agree that this is a good idea. Gerv

Re: [b2g] Patch to make the Hotspot password random (Bug 797661)

2013-01-18 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/01/13 16:16, Lawrence Mandel wrote: How about simply not specifying a default password so that the user has to enter one? IIRC, this is fairly standard practice. Probably because people wouldn't bother. But if you supply a default one, clearing it is (usually; I haven't used FxOS text

Re: [b2g] Latest Flags and Landing, explained

2013-01-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 14/01/13 19:37, Alex Keybl wrote: Below are a few notes on flags, for all of those interested. This explains everything... except: what does TEF stand for? Gerv ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org

Re: [b2g] Phony type functionality for B2G

2012-11-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 13/11/12 11:46, Jonas Sicking wrote: It would indeed be possible to add an API exposed to the settings app which allowed it to modify arbitrary Gecko preferences. What I was referring to was running about:config or other chrome-privileged pages. However, see below. OK. Could we add such an

Re: [b2g] Phony type functionality for B2G

2012-11-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/11/12 13:31, Robert Kaiser wrote: There's no about: pages that run in chrome mode at all (which most do), i.e. no about:config, about:crashes, about:memory, etc. - we cannot run chrome-privileged pages inside content-privileged apps due to security reasons. This bites us in multiple case

Re: [b2g] Phony type functionality for B2G

2012-11-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/11/12 08:50, Jonas Sicking wrote: This is due to time constraints. It's much harder to implement in B2Gs security model since we essentially don't have any chrome JS code running other than what's part of gecko. In fact, we don't have any chrome code which displays UI at all. But the

Re: [b2g] Phony type functionality for B2G

2012-11-08 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/11/12 16:39, Fabrice Desre wrote: On 11/07/2012 03:21 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: But B2G doesn't have anything like about:config yet, does it? Are there any plans to implement something like that? There's no about:config and no plans to add a generic one. Wow, that sucks

Re: [b2g] WebAPI support in B2G Desktop

2012-10-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 26/10/12 02:04, Jonas Sicking wrote: Likewise vibration API is probably something that game developers would want to try out. Would it be possible to write a shim implementation which blinks the screen or otherwise creates a visual indicator for when vibration is turned on? Similarly, if we

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Web Bluetooth API

2012-10-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 25/10/12 21:28, Kyle Machulis wrote: For setting up devices and adapters, it's in for B2G, and only needs some small additions to make it work on linux. For actually talking to arbitrary devices, we're not yet exposing sockets up through the DOM. There's bugs for that (bug 788256), but that's

[b2g] UA Override List Policy

2012-09-26 Thread Gervase Markham
This is a proposed lightweight policy for adding sites to the UA string override list. I propose that we implement this policy, then switch the B2G default UA back to the OS-agnostic one (no Android; bug 787054). If we hit problems with specific sites, we file bugs, run through this process,