Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-27 Thread Nicholas Cameron
Thanks Benoit! It is indeed a nice milestone. Congrats are due to nical, Bas, and pretty much all of the graphics team for all the work on the layers refactoring and OMTC. On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:25:53 PM UTC+13, Benoit Jacob wrote: > Congrats Nick, after all is said and done, this is

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-11-27 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Gabriele Svelto wrote: > What's the general feeling about this? The relevant MDN page [2] mentions > that WONTFIX should only be used by module owners and peers so that also > makes me wary of using it even though in some cases I'm pretty sure a bug > won't ever be

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-11-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/11/13 07:36, Gabriele Svelto wrote: > I'm always tempted to close the former as duplicates of the actual fix > and the latter as WONTFIX so that they won't show up on the following > searches but I'm also afraid that closing a bug several years old is > akin to thread necromancy [1]. Validly

Re: Reacting more strongly to low-memory situations in Firefox 25

2013-11-27 Thread Tracy Walker
On 11/25/13 11:02 AM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: == Regression ranges == Some of the issues appear to be recently introduced in Firefox 25. We need to jump on regression ranges ASAP. I could really use help working with users such as those identified at the top of this message to see if there are

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-27 Thread Milan Sreckovic
Years from now the stories will go... "I had to walk to school through 10ft deep snow, uphill both ways, and when I got there, we had to do OGL compositing on the main thread". Now, all reading this and running Nightly on Linux, and having layers.acceleration.force-enabled set, please try to br

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD

2013-11-27 Thread Rob Campbell
I’ve been aware of these proposals. Honestly, there’s not a lot of meat in the performance timeline proposal and one of the editors doesn’t appear to be actively involved anymore. IMO, this is implementation detail for describing the data structures used by a timeline “entry”. I’m not sure how

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD

2013-11-27 Thread Axel Kratel
I'll take a closer look at it. Will be interesting to see how this fits in with what we're planning, but so far, we didn't plan on taking it into account. - Original Message - From: "Rob Campbell" To: "Till Schneidereit" Cc: "Boris Zbarsky" , "Axel Kratel" , dev-platform@lists.mozilla.

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD

2013-11-27 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 11/27/13 11:51 AM, Rob Campbell wrote: IMO, this is implementation detail for describing the data structures used by a timeline “entry” There are specs that expose these entries too, so this is not implementation detail but something we'll need to end up implementing when Facebook and com

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD

2013-11-27 Thread L. David Baron
I can't figure out what, if anything, this discussion implies about the ballot on the Proposed Recommendations. At this point I'm inclined not to respond to the vote. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla https://www.moz

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-11-27 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - > On 27/11/13 07:36, Gabriele Svelto wrote: > > I'm always tempted to close the former as duplicates of the actual fix > > and the latter as WONTFIX so that they won't show up on the following > > searches but I'm also afraid that closing a bug several years old is > >

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD

2013-11-27 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 11/27/13 2:03 PM, L. David Baron wrote: I can't figure out what, if anything, this discussion implies about the ballot on the Proposed Recommendations. I'm not sure. Basically, I think we're in a sucky situation here: 1) These are specs that we'll need to implement. 2) We were not involv

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-11-27 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Lawrence Mandel writes: > - Original Message - >> On 27/11/13 07:36, Gabriele Svelto wrote: >> > I'm always tempted to close the former as duplicates of the >> > actual fix and the latter as WONTFIX so that they won't show >> > up on the following searches but I'm also afraid that closing

Re: Reacting more strongly to low-memory situations in Firefox 25

2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kaiser
Benjamin Smedberg schrieb: On 11/25/13 8:15 PM, Bas Schouten wrote: I'm a little confused, when I force OOM my firefox build on 64-bit windows it -definitely- goes down before it reaches more than 3GB of working set. Am I missing something here? I think so. I did not mention working set at all.

Re: Reacting more strongly to low-memory situations in Firefox 25

2013-11-27 Thread Jeff Gilbert
A 64-bit build would, but we "don't ship" those. A win64 machine running a 32-bit program can have 4GB of VM, though. -Jeff - Original Message - From: "Robert Kaiser" To: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:35:36 PM Subject: Re: Reacting more strongly to l

Re: Reacting more strongly to low-memory situations in Firefox 25

2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kaiser
Jeff Gilbert schrieb: A 64-bit build would, but we "don't ship" those. A win64 machine running a 32-bit program can have 4GB of VM, though. OK, just wanted to make sure. Benjamin looked at 25.0 release data, AFAIK, so that's of course only 32bit, but if we look at Nightly data, I think a sign

Re: Recent build time improvements due to unified sources

2013-11-27 Thread Gregory Szorc
On 11/21/13, 10:38 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On 11/20/13, 9:57 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On 11/19/2013 10:08 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On 11/18/13, 11:15 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: Do builds feel like they've gotten faster in the last few weeks^hours? It's because they have. When I did my MacBook

Re: Recent build time improvements due to unified sources

2013-11-27 Thread Gabriele Svelto
On 28/11/2013 06:06, Gregory Szorc wrote: On de5aa094b55f, we're now down to: Wall 7:37 (457) User 45:38 (2738) Sys3:54 (234) Total 49:32 (2972) That's with WebRTC and ICU enabled. Looking at my own stats while building I was wondering if anybody has looked at peak memory consum

Re: Recent build time improvements due to unified sources

2013-11-27 Thread Gregory Szorc
On 11/28/13, 12:21 PM, Gabriele Svelto wrote: On 28/11/2013 06:06, Gregory Szorc wrote: On de5aa094b55f, we're now down to: Wall 7:37 (457) User 45:38 (2738) Sys3:54 (234) Total 49:32 (2972) That's with WebRTC and ICU enabled. Looking at my own stats while building I was wonderi

Re: Recent build time improvements due to unified sources

2013-11-27 Thread Gabriele Svelto
On 28/11/2013 08:09, Gregory Szorc wrote: Peak RSS likely has increased significantly (hundreds to gigabytes range). OK, that's what I was curious about. Memory is cheap and getting cheaper. Nobody paid by Mozilla to develop Firefox should have a machine with less than 16 GB. Adding 25%+ to b

Re: Recent build time improvements due to unified sources

2013-11-27 Thread Gregory Szorc
On 11/28/13, 2:29 PM, Gabriele Svelto wrote: On 28/11/2013 08:09, Gregory Szorc wrote: Peak RSS likely has increased significantly (hundreds to gigabytes range). OK, that's what I was curious about. Memory is cheap and getting cheaper. Nobody paid by Mozilla to develop Firefox should have a