Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Presentation WG

2014-09-10 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Second Screen Presentation Working Group http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2014Jul/0001.html http://www.w3.org/2014/secondscreen/charter-draft.html deadline for comments: September 12 (this Friday!) Mozilla has the opportunity

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-10 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Eric Rescorla e...@rtfm.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fi wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Eric Rescorla e...@rtfm.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fi wrote: On Fri,

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Presentation WG

2014-09-10 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:09 AM, L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org wrote: The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Second Screen Presentation Working Group http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2014Jul/0001.html http://www.w3.org/2014/secondscreen/charter-draft.html (At

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Presentation WG

2014-09-10 Thread Marco Chen
Hi Henri, So different that I wonder if the cases belong in the same spec. The answer is yes. There are two cases to be covered by presentation API - One UA: 1. (having another screen to push pixels to) 2. ex: Local UA can display the video via HDMI / WiFi Display / Air Play to Remote

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Presentation WG

2014-09-10 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Marco Chen mc...@mozilla.com wrote: What's the relationship of the expected work of this new group to DIAL? Has DIAL been abandoned? How is this work expected to improve on DIAL? Please refer to [1], one member from netflix suggested to extend DIAL for two UA

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fi wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Eric Rescorla e...@rtfm.com wrote: Sure, I think there are some reasonable cases. Say that a site asks to take your picture for the purpose of displaying an avatar. So you give it

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Presentation WG

2014-09-10 Thread Marco Chen
Hi Henri, Please refer to the 2.2 Out of Scope from [1]. It noted that This Working Group will not define or mandate network protocols for sharing content between user agents and secondary displays. Therefore the idea of leveraging and extending DIAL will not be the scope of this WG. And

Re: web-platform-tests now running in automation

2014-09-10 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:44 PM, James Graham ja...@hoppipolla.co.uk wrote: Yes, I agree too. One option I had considered was making a suite web-platform-tests-mozilla for things that we can't push upstream e.g. because the APIs aren't (yet) undergoing meaningful standardisation. Putting the

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-10 Thread Justin Dolske
On 9/10/14 2:09 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: Chrome auto-decides whether the grant is persistent based on whether the URL is http or https. Whoa. That's non-obvious and creepy. As a user, I find it creepy for an UI that looks like a one-time grant to actually do a persistent grant. Indeed. I

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-10 Thread Martin Thomson
On 2014-09-10, at 16:38, Justin Dolske dol...@mozilla.com wrote: It's particularly egregious on Google Maps... The maps.google.com site redirects tohttps://google.com/maps, which means using geolocation on Google Maps in Chrome will automatically allow geolocation for all of google.com. I

Intent to implement: object-fit object-position CSS properties

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Holbert
Summary: The 'object-fit' and 'object-position' properties allow web developers to customize how a replaced element's content gets scaled and positioned to fit the element's content-box. (i.e. how an image or a video gets scaled/positioned inside of an img/video tag) The 'object-fit' property lets

Re: Intent to implement: object-fit object-position CSS properties

2014-09-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Daniel Holbert dholb...@mozilla.com wrote: Summary: The 'object-fit' and 'object-position' properties allow web developers to customize how a replaced element's content gets scaled and positioned to fit the element's content-box. (i.e. how an image or a video

Re: Intent to implement: object-fit object-position CSS properties

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Holbert
On 09/10/2014 05:26 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Yes! Do we have a sense for how supportive other browser vendors are of these properties? Supportive! I haven't tested other browsers' implementations yet, but I do know that it's been implemented in Blink, and it was apparently undergoing

Re: Intent to implement: object-fit object-position CSS properties

2014-09-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Holbert dholb...@mozilla.com wrote: On 09/10/2014 05:26 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Yes! Do we have a sense for how supportive other browser vendors are of these properties? Supportive! Awesome. Let's do it! / Jonas

Re: Intent to implement: object-fit object-position CSS properties

2014-09-10 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 11 sept. 2014 à 09:03, Daniel Holbert dholb...@mozilla.com a écrit : Summary: The 'object-fit' and 'object-position' properties allow web developers to customize how a replaced element's content gets scaled and positioned to fit the element's content-box. (i.e. how an image or a Please

Re: Intent to implement: object-fit object-position CSS properties

2014-09-10 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 11 sept. 2014 à 10:21, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com a écrit : Support for object-fit in iOS 8. object-position on WebKit OPEN https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122811 object-fit on WebKit RESOLVED FIXED https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52040 -- Karl Dubost, Mozilla

Re: Continued support for ESR

2014-09-10 Thread Philip Chee
On 01/08/2014 13:18, Lukas Blakk wrote: The user base can be generally distributed into three buckets: large organizations with over 100K instances, 2-10K organizations, and then ones under 1K. There are over 5500 members on the mailing list, and in order to get details about use a query was